News Countdown to Gulftown

[Kal-EL]

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=22838

[Splave]

w00t, you droppin bombs on release day kal?

Who else here is throwing down? Let the sin begin.

[FACE]

Shit, I would, but I have to hold on to the hope that a lesser clocked version will come out at around 920 prices. If that doesn't happen, then a second stepping 980 would be my target.

[Russianhaxor]

We gotta wait til 9:01PM PST.

I'll post up the review here.

[HITandRUN]

Its coming he he! :taunt:

[Witchdoctor]

Have to pass on this unfortunatly....

Just not enough cash to blow on a EX chip especially with Intel EX track record being what it is. I really hope these pre release chips are not cherry picked and retails can live up to advertised speeds.

I will have to wiat for this to unfold ...... :keeporder:

[ReverendMaynard]

not looking too special in Vagtage.

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/9365/22766vantage.jpg

(type-o intentional)

[Chuchnit]

Wow, thats really not that impressive. Yet vantage is prolly the least CPU driven of all benches.

[Kal-EL]

That screenshot smells of horse manuer when compared to my personal Vantage test run:
http://www.overclockaholics.com/Kal/Corei7/G_Money_/Vantage.PNG

[Kal-EL]

I'll re-run it when I get home from work to make sure no physx drivers were installed.

[Hondacity]

not looking too special in Vagtage.

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/9365/22766vantage.jpg

(type-o intentional)

good lord..i just saw this today....i aint too impressed. 5.1ghz...its 32nm right? it should be at 5.9ghz or so...

[ReverendMaynard]

source of that screen. Something is not right, because he's also scoring way low on his 06 run. I score that with a farckin 920 ffs.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=4280143#post4280143

[Hondacity]

id rather wait for 32nm quadcores :D

i think this should be "kal's countdown to gtown" LOL

[Splave]

Vantage, didnt they come out with a patch to fix the threading? Maybe he is using an earlier version? Yeah weak scores for sure. Good eye rev.

[ocgmj]

Looks like he selected cores instead of running on all cylinders.

[Kal-EL]

http://www.overclockaholics.com/Kal/Corei7/G_Money_/3d06/23414_Stock.JPG
http://www.overclockaholics.com/Kal/Corei7/G_Money_/G_Money_6.JPG

[ReverendMaynard]

http://www.overclockaholics.com/Kal/Corei7/G_Money_/3d06/23414_Stock.JPG
http://www.overclockaholics.com/Kal/Corei7/G_Money_/G_Money_6.JPG

That's proper.

[Hondacity]

my 285 did 26k on 06.....just watercooled and 5ghz on the cpu....

this is going to be fun :D you use 12threads i'll use 4 threads :D

[Kal-EL]

I'm starting to get a complex about the MANY MANY screenshots being posted regarding gulftown results. 1 of 3 things are happening here:

1- These guys have the crappiest Gulftowns known to man
2- My chip is ungodly efficient
3- Someone has started a propaganda campaign against Gulftown Performance
3a- Said campaign is targeted at lowering initial price points of Gulftown during release.

[ReverendMaynard]

my 285 did 26k on 06.....just watercooled and 5ghz on the cpu....

this is going to be fun you use 12threads i'll use 4 threads

^^^ bringing a knife to a gun fight lol.

Wish I had a 5ghz cpu at the time I ran this then.... ;)
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/825021_reverendmaynard_3dmark_2006_geforce_gtx_285 _24591_marks

[Hondacity]

I'm starting to get a complex about the MANY MANY screenshots being posted regarding gulftown results. 1 of 3 things are happening here:

1- These guys have the crappiest Gulftowns known to man
2- My chip is ungodly efficient
3- Someone has started a propaganda campaign against Gulftown Performance
3a- Said campaign is targeted at lowering initial price points of Gulftown during release.

i would agree with 3- ...hahahahah

^^^ bringing a knife to a gun fight lol.

Wish I had a 5ghz cpu at the time I ran this then.... ;)
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/825021_reverendmaynard_3dmark_2006_geforce_gtx_285 _24591_marks

dude imagine 4 threads flying @ 6.5ghz vs 12threads @ 6ghz ....sure its number crunching..but latency(lack of) would push the scores abit :D ..i'm not sure but if tweaked right i'm looking at 27k perhaps? i have a tek9666 pot too....too bad its skinny. i'm thinking of a way of putting a cpu pot on the gpu..i already ordered a pcie extender :D

[Kal-EL]

@11k cpu score, the chip is severely gpu bottlenecked without increasing gpu clocks, rofl ;)

[Witchdoctor]

Kal you got one ???

.... numbers bro ...........comon

[Kal-EL]

Kal you got one ???

.... numbers bro ...........comon

I posted a bunch of snippet screenies thru this thread. Nothing serious, just horseplay on the proc. I set her aside for launch day since nothing would be submitted to the bot till retail day.

[Hondacity]

when will the nda on this cpu end? is it tonight?

[ReverendMaynard]

http://hwbot.org/hwbot.post.do?postId=1805

imho, if it can bought retail anyhere on the planet the NDA is lifted.

[Kal-EL]

Yes, its tonight but it looks like some e-tailers have jumped the gun so let them submissions loose ;)

[ocgmj]

http://www.provantage.com/intel-bx80613i7980x~7ITEP36Q.htm

[Kal-EL]

I just saw the value of my chips fall off the cliffside. Once again, I've waited too long to sell :shock:

[DrNip]

ZipZoomFly had it for $1,069 or so but took it down. Read somewhere that with a 140W TDP there wouldn't be much overclocking headroom? :confused4: I guess.

[Splave]

saw that too nip

[Russianhaxor]

Oh, look. A review.

Intel's Six Core, 12-Thread, 32nm Core i7 980X; Obsecenly fast in threaded Apps. http://bit.ly/cg2K4Q

[Kal-EL]

NDA is lifted and sky's the limit.

Nice little review Anshel.

[Hondacity]

i just saw naka's post on xs.. he says cb @ -135c. isn't that mobo cb...on the classified? i was wating for shammy's response to the classified cb mod...like the p55's but he hasn't replied. guys got info on the cb fix for the classified x58s?

there's a rumor of a gigabyte x58 monster board...anybody heard of it?

[Dentlord]

Cool, now I can read 50 reviews :laughing:
But when can I BUY ONE??!!?? :argh2:

[Hondacity]

this cpu will level the field....sf3d is back :D and some new guys are really putting some good scores... :)

[Splave]

so did I hear we should wait for the second revision?

[Dentlord]

so did I hear we should wait for the second revision?

I have always been really bad at waiting .. however it might be a good idea this time.

And it would free up some more fermi funds.

But I wont be able to lol

[Splave]

I hear ya man, I got the itch too but will be epically pissed if it maxes at 5.3-5.5 where I am with my i7 960

[Hondacity]

this is 32nm ......its born for 6ghz :)

the 960 has a coldbug and the imc..isn't born to fly :)

[Hondacity]

i correct myself..its the imc+cores .....that are improved...

[RomDominance]

Still B1 revision is said to be garbage...word to the wise, but its your 1k.

[FACE]

Still B1 revision is said to be garbage...word to the wise, but its your 1k.

So it is destined to have an ownage successor

:shock:

[Witchdoctor]

I have to think Intel will release a more consumer friendly version in a few months after they have millked these for all they are worth.

Plus stepping will be huge as with the 920 DO was quite a chip for $ 200.00

I would be happy with a similar 32nm chip even if it still a quad

[FACE]

A 32nm quad on x58 would be nice, but a hexa-ownage consumer level chip is a must.

Intel would be raping themselves if they didn't release a few... :thumbsup:

[ocgmj]

I have to think Intel will release a more consumer friendly version in a few months after they have millked these for all they are worth.

Plus stepping will be huge as with the 920 DO was quite a chip for $ 200.00

I would be happy with a similar 32nm chip even if it still a quad

There is a rumor of a 970 coming out but has not been confirmed.

[Splave]

yep! quarter 3 possibly

[FACE]

yep! quarter 3 possibly

Good, that will give me some time to pay off the future doctor bills... The GF's going to beat me w/ a frying pan if I keep popping off at her... :laughing:

Every penny I save not smoking is going to a gulfster or two...

[Kal-EL]

Holy hell them Gulftown submissions are ludicrous speed in 2D, Nice smoke and mirrors show by the Shih regarding pi benches.

[ocgmj]

Insane in the membrane.

[Witchdoctor]

yep! quarter 3 possibly


Daddy, will I ever get to go to Disney Land ?







Never in a million years ........................... :ohcrap:

[ReverendMaynard]

yep! quarter 3 possibly

not likely. Roadmap shows nothing other than i5 and i3 updates until 2011 when we get Sandy Bridge platform (I like to refer to it as Sandy Vag) with 8 core/16 threads cpu's and PCIE 3.0 3x24lane.

[Splave]

http://www.nordichardware.com/en/component/content/article/69-cpu--chipset/194-intel-roadmap-reveals-32nm-hexa-core-intel-core-i7-970.html

http://www.diginewsdigest.com/en/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1800:intel-to-launch-a-mainstream-hexa-core-cpu-in-q3-2010&catid=8:news&Itemid=3

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/intel_rolls_six?page=0%2C2

They all probably use the same source though. All hearsay but would make sense.

[Russianhaxor]

http://www.nordichardware.com/en/component/content/article/69-cpu--chipset/194-intel-roadmap-reveals-32nm-hexa-core-intel-core-i7-970.html

http://www.diginewsdigest.com/en/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1800:intel-to-launch-a-mainstream-hexa-core-cpu-in-q3-2010&catid=8:news&Itemid=3

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/intel_rolls_six?page=0%2C2

They all probably use the same source though. All hearsay but would make sense.

I've heard similar murmurings.

[Neuromancer]

Wow impressive "stock" cooler on that

[Hondacity]

sorry i'm not impressed with the heatsink...

they should open up their car radiators....if you buy a basic radiator the fan is shrouded...intel's fan..well its not....

[Russianhaxor]

sorry i'm not impressed with the heatsink...

they should open up their car radiators....if you buy a basic radiator the fan is shrouded...intel's fan..well its not....

Baby steps. baby steps. :laughing:

[Chuchnit]

not likely. Roadmap shows nothing other than i5 and i3 updates until 2011 when we get Sandy Bridge platform (I like to refer to it as Sandy Vag) with 8 core/16 threads cpu's and PCIE 3.0 3x24lane.

What about any single QPI Xeons? Is there any locked multi quads or hexa core chips coming soon? Sorry, I haven't had time to keep up with all the news lately. I'll punish myself later :smackbum:

[ReverendMaynard]

What about any single QPI Xeons? Is there any locked multi quads or hexa core chips coming soon? Sorry, I haven't had time to keep up with all the news lately. I'll punish myself later :smackbum:

never followed the Xeon train....would the X5650 count?

EDIT: nope, it's 2XQPI.

[DrNip]

Jesus anyone see this?

http://hwbot.org/community/submission/972305_sf3d_3dmark_2005_2x_radeon_hd_5970_58150_ma rks

or this?

http://hwbot.org/community/submission/972311_sf3d_3dmark_2006_2x_radeon_hd_5970_43985_ma rks

[Chuchnit]

never followed the Xeon train....would the X5650 count?

EDIT: nope, it's 2XQPI.

Well it would count except your right about the dual QPI. Really that wouldn't be a problem except the markup for that extra QPI is like 85% :thumbdown:

[Chuchnit]

Jesus anyone see this?

http://hwbot.org/community/submission/972305_sf3d_3dmark_2005_2x_radeon_hd_5970_58150_ma rks

or this?

http://hwbot.org/community/submission/972311_sf3d_3dmark_2006_2x_radeon_hd_5970_43985_ma rks

Pure craziness :eek: What's truley sick is the low scores for those runs. :thumbdown:

[DrNip]

A 57596 Vantage run was submitted today but it was with a dual Xeon X5680 setup. Still though the 980x by itself is right behind it with 52193. Looks like I might need to pick up a second job to get one of these so I can compete! This CPU is also killing Aquamark as well as some 2 D benches.

[Hondacity]

some guys are getting distributor prices..... i4memory guys are ordering some....they can easily get big points especially top benchers like dinos booj and bobnz are there...if they have youngpro back they'll be kicking some teams aXSes

[DrNip]

Is Gulftown the end of 1366? I say this because when I look at the next big thing, Sandybridge, it is 1356 and 1155 socket. This also would mean the end of 1156 socket. Anyone? Either way I have set up a little personal fund on the side and going to gradually add to it over the spring and summer to pick me up a $1k chip within the future. :D

[Witchdoctor]

I hope not I was hoping to get a few CPU's out of my 760 ....

just a great board .......

But I am sure there will be great boards for the new platforms as well.

[ReverendMaynard]

Is Gulftown the end of 1366? I say this because when I look at the next big thing, Sandybridge, it is 1356 and 1155 socket. This also would mean the end of 1156 socket. Anyone? Either way I have set up a little personal fund on the side and going to gradually add to it over the spring and summer to pick me up a $1k chip within the future. :D

Not sure Nipster, anything right now is just wild speculation but looking at available resources and deciphering the bullshit, I'd say 1156 and 1366 are going to get phased out in favor of the sockets you mentioned. PCIE 3.0 would be the biggest reason I guess.

[Hondacity]

hwbot benching needs strategy..i'm guessing sandybridge will be very good..intel's been doing an ok job improving cpu's.

for now i'd just stick with my e8600 for 01..and i670 for everything...GT is just way financially crippling. and i still need to build my ln2 kit. and yes i'm selling everything. cpu and mobo and tripple chan mems. strategize my brothers..make funds for next gen cpu&gpu :D

[DrNip]

for now i'd just stick with my e8600 for 01..and i670 for everything...GT is just way financially crippling. and i still need to build my ln2 kit. and yes i'm selling everything. cpu and mobo and tripple chan mems. strategize my brothers..make funds for next gen cpu&gpu :D


Yeah it is financially crippling but $50 here, $50 there I should have one by summer time. I've never owned a $1k chip and hopefully when I do it isn't a dud. If so I will have to try to pawn it off on ebay. 32nm is what is calling my name. Well that and 6-12 threads. Looking for great benching chip. My 920 is great but limited to the 21 mult. Looking to put a chip under LN2 this summer. That was my hopes last summer but got side tracked. Who knows, maybe I can score a newer GPU by then too. Don't want to get left behind in old technology :D

For those wondering where I got my info on Sandybridge I got it at Wikipedia. I have found them to be a pretty reliable source on Intel and future Intel.

1745

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Sandy_Bridge_(microarchitecture)

[Splave]

^nothing scarier than that :)

[Chuchnit]

So when is this thing supposed to actually hit retail stores? I thought intel was good at having stores stocked right after NDA lifts?

[Gunslinger]

Retail 3/16/10

[Dentlord]

So the real question is are the retail b1 stepping a complete waste of money?

I know its the nature of the game, but it sucks that all the favorites get the es that kick major ass and get us all excited about the chip, then when it goes retail the rest of us get crap ($1100 dollar crap at that)

[Chuchnit]

Retail 3/16/10

That's NDA date for Xeon offerings too huh? Any word on what Xeons Intel is gonna release on 32nm? Let me guess..... all will be uber expensive dual QPI CPU's??

[Splave]

So the real question is are the retail b1 stepping a complete waste of money?

I know its the nature of the game, but it sucks that all the favorites get the es that kick major ass and get us all excited about the chip, then when it goes retail the rest of us get crap ($1100 dollar crap at that)

AKA i670/660/661 again rofl not as bad at $300 though. Im diving right in head first. I will kill it/sell it if its major garbage. :cool3:

[Chuchnit]

So the real question is are the retail b1 stepping a complete waste of money?

I know its the nature of the game, but it sucks that all the favorites get the es that kick major ass and get us all excited about the chip, then when it goes retail the rest of us get crap ($1100 dollar crap at that)

Well if GT is like i5, it's not looking too good. Difference between ES and retail is HUGE these days. I'm like you; nature of the game, but these differences are just retarded. :thumbdown:


AKA i670/660/661 again rofl not as bad at $300 though. Im diving right in head first. I will kill it/sell it if its major garbage. :cool3:

Lets hope that since it is $1000 silicon we are talking about that they did get the oc headroom back up close to or at ES samples.

[Buckeye]

So the real question is are the retail b1 stepping a complete waste of money?

I know its the nature of the game, but it sucks that all the favorites get the es that kick major ass and get us all excited about the chip, then when it goes retail the rest of us get crap ($1100 dollar crap at that)

I ran into that with the QX9650, QX9770, 965XE cpu's

Made me decided not to buy XE cpu's anymore unless I was very sure of the stepping.

Just hang out a bit before you buy one, see what people post and make notes on batch numbers. Don't buy online unless they can give you a batch number.

[Dentlord]

AKA i670/660/661 again rofl not as bad at $300 though. Im diving right in head first. I will kill it/sell it if its major garbage. :cool3:

You are a brave soul lol

I was all ready to pounce the second I could, but after seeing what the b1 is doing, I wouldn't spend $300 on one, let alone >$1k

[Splave]

but these differences are just retarded. :thumbdown:
.
+1000 :shock:

[Chuchnit]

I ran into that with the QX9650, QX9770, 965XE cpu's

Made me decided not to buy XE cpu's anymore unless I was very sure of the stepping.

Just hang out a bit before you buy one, see what people post and make notes on batch numbers. Don't buy online unless they can give you a batch number.

Ok, enough posting Bill. Get back to building that SS :poke:

[Dentlord]

I guess the thing to do would be try and grab an es from ebay and not get a warranty

[Splave]

then again the guys that have the ES usually know when they have a good ES and wont sell it.

[Chuchnit]

I guess the thing to do would be try and grab an es from ebay and not get a warranty

:ohcrap: 2.4ghz A0 stepping on there now :P

Well from what rumors are around the chip will die easily if pushed. So you're stuck with major bointage with a strong CPU that may die, or warranty with a "most likely" to clock less CPU that will still give boints. What to do, what to do??

[DrNip]

So the real question is are the retail b1 stepping a complete waste of money?

I know its the nature of the game, but it sucks that all the favorites get the es that kick major ass and get us all excited about the chip, then when it goes retail the rest of us get crap ($1100 dollar crap at that)

Best thing to do is sit back a month and observe. Of course now that is easier said than done.

[Witchdoctor]

^ wisdom


:thumbsup:

but man it would be great if you do get a hot rod ............

[Kal-EL]

The general consensus on B1 Stepping is that its utter crap. I don't have anything reliable in the way of b2 stepping yet.

Sometimes you roll the dice and you get lucky tho, there have a been a few times when I bought blindly at the egg and wound up with a better than decent performing chip.

Two schools of thought on these chips.

1) Roll the dice and pick up a chip which may or may not perform marginally better than bloomfield
2) Sit tight and set aside funds till the timing is right to pounce on better performing batches + see fermi results.

[Splave]

1) roll them dice baby! have my lady blow on em first ;)

i960 has been an epic egg chip for me, lets keep the streak alive. Would be sick if tiger direct carried them, 13% bing cash back, $130 off.

[Hondacity]

i rolled the dice on the

i7920 when it first came out 5.4ghz bam!
i570 when 6.9ghz bam!

i7980 and i got 6.8ghz...toink LOL

bwahhahahahhaha

[Kal-EL]

i rolled the dice on the

i7920 when it first came out 5.4ghz bam!
i570 when 6.9ghz bam!

i7980 and i got 6.8ghz...toink LOL

bwahhahahahhaha

Looked up your profile on them clocks, what happened to the 5.4ghz CPU-Z i7 920? Did it not wanna run 2 benches?

[Kal-EL]

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=4280980#post4280980

[HITandRUN]

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=4280980#post4280980

Now this is pretty insane! :thumbsup:

[Kal-EL]

http://cgi.ebay.com/GULFTOWN-XEON-i9-4-5GHZ-on-AIR-6-CORE-12-THREAD-980X_W0QQitemZ300407822692QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCPUs? hash=item45f1b39964

Far as I've heard, this is a good batch for sub-zero and should hit 6ghz+

[Splave]

If I had a sack I would buy it lol wait what?

[FACE]

Seems like a decent price.... Wonder if it is a dud-me-down though.

[Kal-EL]

More results in on retail http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=247778

[Hondacity]

Looked up your profile on them clocks, what happened to the 5.4ghz CPU-Z i7 920? Did it not wanna run 2 benches?

mobo maybe was hurt.....i'll get a a new classy after april or so....i hope shammy brings out a new classy :D

i still have the cpu..safe :D