A-hole flames out of work system builders on Craigslist

[FACE]

This guy is a jerk. Not everyone knows or cares to know how to build systems.

Things are easier, but to some it's like learning a new language...

Are you kidding me? PC's are so easy to build, it's basically plug and play and everything fits one way and requires minimal setup. Processor goes in ONE way, memory fits ONE way, Sata and IDE cables fit ONE way, PSU cables fit ONE way, mobo fits only ONE way on the mobo tray, video card fits in one slot only and only goes in ONE way. You're an IDIOT if you screw that up, the only slightly confusing part could be plugging accessories like the case HDD light into the mobo and the front accessories into the mobo but it all depends on how good your mobo manual is and how smart you are about reading diagrams. This is not the 486 days where you had a ton of setup to do with IRQ and DMA addresses and a whole mess of complicated stuff to figure out. Everything has been VASTLY simplified. The BIOS Setup is easy too, instructions are in the manual if you don't know what to do but most is self explanatory (Boot priority...no clue what that could mean...). You people are a bunch of crooks if you think people need to pay 20% of the retail to have it put together, no wonder NO ONE will buy custom built PCs on here because new store builts are a better deal for not having to deal with clueless kids that will over charge you for shoddy workmanship and give you no warranty or promise of quality.

Shoot, I've got the spare parts to build an old 486 machine lying around. I'd love to let you "whiz kids" try and set this up - you'd never even get past the POST...We had this glorious thing you probably haven't seen, growing up on Windows XP - it's called MS-DOS (It's what all that grey text on the black background is when you turn the PC on - except you like *gasp* type commands that you're just supposed to know into it!). I'd buy that setup crap back then because it sucked to setup a new machine then, I did it plenty and it was a bear but doable - everything now is so easy anyone with common sense and/or a Computers for Dummies book can put one together. You whine about setting your precious little i7 or Phenom processors up - let me know sometime and I'll tell you about the wonderful world of SCSI and termination...heheh

Here's the original post I found while scouring for cheap bot cards:
http://louisville.craigslist.org/sys/1720380683.html

Too funny. :keeporder:

[ReverendMaynard]

I'd make that d-bags head spin in 20 seconds.

[FACE]

I know, right? What a jackass. If it were so easy, then Dell/Alienware, ibuypower, and the like wouldn't be in business.

The guys selling gamers on the bay and the list are usually struggling to feed their families, and this guy sticks his stink sauce in their soup.

[Hondacity]

oh man..ebay and clist are treasure islands :)

[Patch]

I can't believe people these days. What's the world coming to. Everybody buys food from a store instead of hunting and growing their own. Everybody buys clothes on the internet instead of making their own. People pay other people to fix their cars, mow their lawns, teach their kids.

Now you tell me that we even have people that build computers for other people? And charge an astronomical 20% for the service? Shoot, they should reasearch it, order and assemble components, deal with the phone calls, troubleshooting, and RMA's for a mere 5%. Fat cat leeches.

[FACE]

I can't believe people these days. What's the world coming to. Everybody buys food from a store instead of hunting and growing their own. Everybody buys clothes on the internet instead of making their own. People pay other people to fix their cars, mow their lawns, teach their kids.

Now you tell me that we even have people that build computers for other people? And charge an astronomical 20% for the service? Shoot, they should reasearch it, order and assemble components, deal with the phone calls, troubleshooting, and RMA's for a mere 5%. Fat cat leeches.

:laughing:

[HITandRUN]

I'd make that d-bags head spin in 20 seconds.

Yeah right! :ohcrap:

[MaadDaawg]

Whoever wrote that is obviously an a$$hole, mostly because most people simply don't have the motivation or KNOWLEDGE to build a PC. And the PC they buy at the store consist of underpowered obsolete hardware that will handle little more than internet surfing or MSoffice.

Anyone who built PCs back in the days before plug and play, however, can read between the lines and there he/she does have a point. A moot point considering it's 30 years in the past, but a point non the less. In the old days, everything that plug and play does for you had to be done manually using switches and jumpers. It could take anywhere from a couple hours to an entire day to get everything in sync and the pc booted and running. I have one of the original DOS based ASUS plug and play mobos somewhere in my garage with a 386 sitting in it, gotta find it and see if it's worth any bointange LOL

Truth is the VAST MAJORITY of the public would not have a clue how to build a gaming machine, so they pay twice as much for half the power at the local Micro Center.. sad but true.

Whoever wrote that missive on Clist is still and a$$hole though :D

[Splave]

pic of the guy that posted this
http://a474.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/37/l_3f4c55c2bd8cbda75d1bfc9218346ce1.jpg

seriously though, all I have to say is it takes 2 seconds to bend a mobo pin ;)
So when a layman builds a comp turns it on and it doesnt work because of a DOA part how do they test it?

[ReverendMaynard]

This is why I charge a percentage of the component cost when I do side builds. Cheaper rigs cost way less, but the more intricate expensive builds I get enough to cover my ass if I fuck it up.

[Splave]

I had a website doing builds for a year while I was 17 lol my bro designed it and I would do the builds. I used to charge components cost plus $100 was a sweet deal but ran out of time to hang with friends and do both so I shut it down. People thought it was great!

[FACE]

When I do build though my shop, there are tons of things to consider.

parts cost, and rma on any warrantied parts.
quote cost. Taking the time to custom build the pc per customer's wishes.
labor cost, how much is my time worth?
bench time... Taking away from diagnosing on the bench. 1 custom build takes up the space of 3 towers running diagnostics easily.

Then, you are practically married to that person. Every virus, pop up, and software incompatibility is YOUR fault. This adds labor to the build almost every time because kissing ass makes more money than not.

Some of the builds I find on clist are actually only on a 5 - 10% markup from parts cost. That is pretty low considering. Dude's an asshat. :Hi:

[ReverendMaynard]

Then, you are practically married to that person. Every virus, pop up, and software incompatibility is YOUR fault. This adds labor to the build almost every time because kissing ass makes more money than not.


This is why when I build, I explain that I just service hardware, then hand them a good friends business card that specializes in virus removal and data-recovery. Win-win for all.

[FACE]

LOL, that would work, but that's what my primary business is in... tech work. Grinding out computer AIDS on a daily basis.

High end builds are too niche market to sustain a business in Kentucky. The real money is in working on run of the mill crap. :thumbsup:

[Kal-EL]

Hey Face, I deleted system32 but now when I reboot I can't get back into windows, u better fix this shit mang! :Dizzy:

[Witchdoctor]

I used to do builds and became such a PITA i gave it up

Now I will only biuld fro close friends and if it is total custom type stuff

Last one I built for a friend paid two cases of Hinekin ......... It was a Win .... :thumbsup:

[FACE]

Hey Face, I deleted system32 but now when I reboot I can't get back into windows, u better fix this shit mang! :Dizzy:

ROFL! my dastardly plans have worked! I can now change my sig and wait for the next victim... :rofl

[Kal-EL]

ROFL! my dastardly plans have worked! I can now change my sig and wait for the next victim... :rofl
:laughing:

[Chuchnit]

Total WIN by Face, :laugh: