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Cecil
05-14-2010, 09:15 PM
http://hwbot.org/rankings/benchmark/wprime_1024m/rankings?start=0&cores=2&hardwareTypeId=CPU_1935
Running faster then everyone but the top guy. Ram timings doesnt seem to make a difference, cause 4-4-3-8 didnt help. Running the 32bit XP xtreme that was linked in the other thread.
Its the same thing with the other CPUs Ive been benching. Spi and Pifast I kick ass with even lower CPU speeds then others, but wprime I cant do shit.
Kal-EL
05-14-2010, 09:27 PM
AMD clocking aint my bag but can you increase HT speed?
Cecil
05-14-2010, 09:37 PM
AMD clocking aint my bag but can you increase HT speed?

Not really, already pushing what it can do. Plus one of the 3.4 guys is running HT slower then mine.
HITandRUN
05-15-2010, 12:45 AM
What OS tweaks do you have going on?
Splave
05-15-2010, 02:48 AM
display driver installed?
Neuromancer
05-15-2010, 05:12 AM
For 32m I usually run 3 threads on AMD ...

For 1024. only 1 per core. but I use the same tweaks as for spi32. LSC, MAXMEM and diagnostic mode. Spitweaker is a nice tool that cleans your temp files and also runs copywaza for you. Can try that.
Cecil
05-15-2010, 09:33 AM
What OS tweaks do you have going on?
None, just using the XP install mentioned above.
display driver installed?
No.
For 32m I usually run 3 threads on AMD ...

For 1024. only 1 per core. but I use the same tweaks as for spi32. LSC, MAXMEM and diagnostic mode. Spitweaker is a nice tool that cleans your temp files and also runs copywaza for you. Can try that.

Guess Ill give that a try.
Gutterz
05-15-2010, 01:26 PM
Display drivers are your problem. Install them. I had the same issue an Splave told me to install them an I did an it fixed the problem. I never did thank you Splave, Thanks. Sometimes u get wrapped up an stuff an keep thinking inside the box.
Cecil
05-15-2010, 02:01 PM
Display drivers are your problem. Install them. I had the same issue an Splave told me to install them an I did an it fixed the problem. I never did thank you Splave, Thanks. Sometimes u get wrapped up an stuff an keep thinking inside the box.

Just gave that a try. Using an x1650XT and tried the 10.2s, and it made no difference :blink:
Jor-El
05-15-2010, 02:59 PM
Just gave that a try. Using an x1650XT and tried the 10.2s, and it made no difference :blink:

Are you assigning threads?
Cecil
05-15-2010, 03:28 PM
Are you assigning threads?

Tried running 2 and 3 threads. 3 sometimes was faster, but not always.
Gutterz
05-15-2010, 03:44 PM
have u tried sloppy timings?
Cecil
05-15-2010, 04:03 PM
have u tried sloppy timings?

Yeah, was using 4-4-3-5-11 ~1018, then for wprime ~790 4-4-4-12-19 had the best run I got.
HITandRUN
05-15-2010, 04:26 PM
Yeah, was using 4-4-3-5-11 ~1018, then for wprime ~790 4-4-4-12-19 had the best run I got.

Get all the tweaks in place neuro mentioned. This should improve your times. Also this (http://www.devhardware.com/c/a/Hardware-Guides/Competitive-Benchmarking-Tips-and-Tricks/1/) is a good guide which explains some stuff. Good luck!
Cecil
05-15-2010, 04:52 PM
When doing copy-waza, does it have to be from the OS partition to another? My drive has three partitions, two of which arent being used. I could put a movie file on one, and just move it back and forth.
HITandRUN
05-15-2010, 05:37 PM
When doing copy-waza, does it have to be from the OS partition to another? My drive has three partitions, two of which arent being used. I could put a movie file on one, and just move it back and forth.

Around 4GB file D: --> C: --> D: (i believe to have heard it from AndreYang) and as soon the file transfer is over you hit go. :thumbsup: Go get them!
Neuromancer
05-16-2010, 06:24 AM
Around 4GB file D: --> C: --> D: (i believe to have heard it from AndreYang) and as soon the file transfer is over you hit go. :thumbsup: Go get them!

Interesting. I have always done D:-C: wait a minute after transfer and go. MAy have to give that a try :)
HITandRUN
05-16-2010, 02:57 PM
Interesting. I have always done D:-C: wait a minute after transfer and go. MAy have to give that a try :)

Yeah he was talking about D>C and than back to D would give him the best results. ;)
Splave
05-16-2010, 03:10 PM
approx 30-35 seconds is the money wait time (atleast for spi32m)
Neuromancer
05-16-2010, 03:19 PM
Yeah he was talking about D>C and than back to D would give him the best results. ;)

Yup... is that the CDT tweak I wonder???

approx 30-35 seconds is the money wait time (atleast for spi32m)

Yeah thats what I left spitweaker timer at... 35 seconds. I usually still don't hit start right away though.
HITandRUN
05-17-2010, 01:54 AM
Yup... is that the CDT tweak I wonder???



Yeah thats what I left spitweaker timer at... 35 seconds. I usually still don't hit start right away though.

The way I understand Copy Waza is that when after your move the files for the last time and its done you hit GO immediately when the memory is empty so SPI gets the first rights to use it.