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ny_driver
10-09-2010, 01:56 PM
Well, I do even though I've been instructed that they are unreliable when sub-zero. It did work good(consistently anyways) until recently. It(pcprobe) would read down to 0 and below with no minus sign down to -10 was as far as I saw............but anyways the last couple days it's been reading 50-60C, but I know it's totally whacked.

I was racing and everything yesterday @ 4.5Ghz/1.5v with a cpu temp of 65C.......... I don't think so. It wouldn't even think about POSTing if not sub-zero at those settings. Anyone ever had a similar experience?

Patch
10-09-2010, 02:04 PM
Couldn't tell ya man. I never look.

Heck, I don't even look on the 24/7 water rigs. If it gets too hot to be stable it'll BSOD. And a chip is very very lucky to ever be used more than a year here, so longevity is irrelevant.

Kal-EL
10-09-2010, 02:21 PM
Only time I check software temps are at ambient and thats just to check that I have a good mount. So I check my mount probe readout vs software readout and if its not to crazy a difference I assume a good mount is made. run a few load tests to see what the deltas are and then go for the cold :).

Hondacity
10-09-2010, 02:25 PM
when aircooling i usually do this check temps....

and even liquid cooling

and ln2...

to check the mounts...

i always heat up the cpu...to about 60c.....make sure the ceramique or thermal paste spreads to the micro grooves....for max heat transfer

also if the mount is sorta angled....then a temperature difference = delta, for example greater than 10 C....means a remount is in order

BenchZowner
10-10-2010, 12:28 AM
Well, I do even though I've been instructed that they are unreliable when sub-zero. It did work good(consistently anyways) until recently. It(pcprobe) would read down to 0 and below with no minus sign down to -10 was as far as I saw............but anyways the last couple days it's been reading 50-60C, but I know it's totally whacked.

I was racing and everything yesterday @ 4.5Ghz/1.5v with a cpu temp of 65C.......... I don't think so. It wouldn't even think about POSTing if not sub-zero at those settings. Anyone ever had a similar experience?

They can easily POST and boot at 4.5GHz even at 85C++
The Core i7's in general, and the 980X's especially can do crazy things... like Bingo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWyKZXm_Yys)

when aircooling i usually do this check temps....

and even liquid cooling

and ln2...

to check the mounts...

i always heat up the cpu...to about 60c.....make sure the ceramique or thermal paste spreads to the micro grooves....for max heat transfer

also if the mount is sorta angled....then a temperature difference = delta, for example greater than 10 C....means a remount is in order

The on-die DTS ( temp sensors ) of the Core i3/i5/i7 CPUs are very accurate, and is the closest reading you can get to the exact core temperature.
CoreTemp or RealTemp and you're set.

DrNip
10-10-2010, 12:38 AM
I only look at them when on AIR or water.

HITandRUN
10-10-2010, 02:28 AM
Yeah most mobos or chips work maybe in a range to -40 or -50 so this is pretty much useless if you running DICE or LN2.

ny_driver
10-10-2010, 03:00 AM
My AMD 965BE crashes when I'm racing and the temps go up to ohh say 10C on the software @ 4.5GHz/1.5v. I've watched it happen a few times.

Today after remounting last night, software said -2C first thing and it's up to 29C already and climbing, but the block and coolant are at -29C. It don't add up...I am certain the mount is good and only used a tiny amount of Radio Shack grease. I tested squishing it on there 3 times to get the amount right. When the block is removed there is a very thin quarter sized circle of TIM. It looks perfect to me.

The sensor in my chip is just whacked out......there is no way the chip is at 30C when the block is -28C.

HITandRUN
10-10-2010, 03:27 AM
My AMD 965BE crashes when I'm racing and the temps go up to ohh say 10C on the software @ 4.5GHz/1.5v. I've watched it happen a few times.

Today after remounting last night, software said -2C first thing and it's up to 29C already and climbing, but the block and coolant are at -29C. It don't add up...I am certain the mount is good and only used a tiny amount of Radio Shack grease. I tested squishing it on there 3 times to get the amount right. When the block is removed there is a very thin quarter sized circle of TIM. It looks perfect to me.

The sensor in my chip is just whacked out......there is no way the chip is at 30C when the block is -28C.

Especially on idle. :D

ny_driver
10-10-2010, 03:50 AM
Running 52C now......block is at -26C.

Neuromancer
10-10-2010, 02:09 PM
Technically even external digital thermos are software temp sensors.

The difference is the quality of parts. Which would you trust more. An algorithmic temp sensor based on a $100 product designed to sense the lack or increased resistance of a material based on temperature and that can be calibrated? Or would you prefer the temp sensor included in a $50-$500 motherboard that you have no clue which they used?

Seriously my $10 temp probe (+13 shipping) reads about 140 degrees lower than my one included on my ROG motherboard. So what maybe 50 cents for the mobo temp sensor?

ny_driver
10-15-2010, 12:01 PM
Check out how whacked my 965BE sensors are. While running IBT the CPU was @ 84C and cores below 0.

Pretty wild....now idling @ 73C. :Dizzy:

ny_driver
10-15-2010, 01:07 PM
Here is one you can actually see the temps. Idling along @ 87C....while running IBT it dropped to 40C for a few seconds now IBTing @ 59C...lol....the cores reached 10C according to HWmonitor. I just can't get over how unusual it seems.

Weirdest thing is that the BIOS and all software installed on my machine are reading the same ridiculous temperatures, but RC TweakIT installed on my laptop to monitor the main rig is somehow still giving me accurate readings(or consistent with all along anyways). It reads the CPU as N/A or subzero now....and got up to 8C while running IBT.

I really hope my new thermometer will be more accurate than my current one. I had the probe in my mouth testing it and it only got up to 17C. I think my block thermometer is off by about 10-15C. Right now the coolant is @ -22C and the block thermometer reads -34C.

ny_driver
10-16-2010, 12:20 AM
And this morning....4.5GHz/121C (idle) cores are at or below zero.

Sorry to bore you all with my stupid software temp readings, but that's about the most exciting thing going on right now. :blink:

GeorgeStorm
10-16-2010, 12:34 AM
That is wacky!
I don't tend to look, but whenever I do, I've never seen anything like that, closest I had was sensors stuck at 30