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not used eh?

i may have to bug you later
exactly what i was thinking LOL

ill wait and see the performance of this pot compared to the f1
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exactly what i was thinking LOL

ill wait and see the performance of this pot compared to the f1
Koolance pot will not hold up under LN2, its really for DICE. But then there are far better DICE pots than this one.
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which pot would you recommend for dice on an i7 rig ?

i currently have a dragon evo pot
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Look around for used ones. They should have the copper bottom, alum tube design, be big Dia. and tall.

Reason...

Copper tubes are not really needed in DICE and just add extra expense.
What you want for the base is to hold a fair amount acetone as that is the medium that absorbs the heat. The pot should also be tall to help control spray and foam so it doesnt get all over the place.

The biggest mistake I see people do with DICE is fill the pot up with big chuncks of DICE. You end up with big pieces of DICE up high in teh tube and not touching the acetone forcing you to have keep pushing it down or breaking it up.

Far better to bust that stuff up into powder. You will get much better control of temps and not have to keep stiring up the DICE mix.

I have used the standard F1 with DICE and it simply is to small for good operation. If its hard to keep the pot at max temps then the pot is wrong.

These things are tools to use for cooling, just as there are better water cooling blocks the same holds true for LN2/DICE pots.

The Phantom pot is an excelent pot for DICE if it has the Alum tube. Why... It's large and that keeps a fair amount of acetone in the base area. Its has a large Dia and tall tube which makes it easy to add DICE and control the spray and foam issues. The base design does just what it does with LN2, moves teh cooling medium around, has a huge surface area and huge number of sharp edges for transfer of heat into the medium.

I have no clue why Gom said the F1EE should be nervious, its a very bad comparision and perhaps just a marketing jab. I think there is more going on in the background than is being told, well I know there is, but don't want to get into all that here. The people in the know can speak for themselves.

This is an example of a good DICE pot.
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Thanks buckeye that was really helpful!!!
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just looked and the F1's are listed at $265, or approx $95 more than the Koolance v2. Could be 1/3rd the cost of a dewar. Want to read the reviews before jumping, and ummm... if anyone wants to sell a used F1 let me know

Just talked to the local LN2 guys at AirGas and they quoted me a sweet price per liter if I rent a 160 litre dewar for a buck and a half a day... decisions decisions
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just looked and the F1's are listed at $265, or approx $95 more than the Koolance v2. Could be 1/3rd the cost of a dewar. Want to read the reviews before jumping, and ummm... if anyone wants to sell a used F1 let me know

Just talked to the local LN2 guys at AirGas and they quoted me a sweet price per liter if I rent a 160 litre dewar for a buck and a half a day... decisions decisions
Everyone has nice Airgas guys but me

Back when I had the 160L and 230L here at my house they set me a bill for $100 for each Dewar, worked out to about $10 a day just for Dewars
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OMG

An old friend of mine is a VP at Airgas in Calif, he called on my behalf and they'll give me the 160 litres of LN2 for $62.50, which is a lot cheaper than they quoted me before I got the "friends and family" discount So rental of 45/mo and deliver of 25 bucks gets to over $100 - so it'll only be worth it if one refill lasts several months.. which prolly won't be the case
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Dude, why'd you keep your temp around -80C in the video's ? was it strictly a cold bug issue or are there limitations to temps due to the pot's design?
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Dude, why'd you keep your temp around -80C in the video's ? was it strictly a cold bug issue or are there limitations to temps due to the pot's design?
Are you asking me ?
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