[Jeffro64]

Hey guys... I have a older puter here that I put together cheap for my mom long ago. It is an ABIT NF8-V board with a AMD Sempron 2800+ CPU installed.

My mom just got a new puter and wanted me to fix this one up for my dad, so I put a few new parts in ( GPU, New PSU and more ram) and installed Vista Ultimate 64. The CPU is clocked at 1.67Ghz and was having anything to do with being OC'd very much without getting the good ole BSOD, so I thought I would upgrade the CPU a bit to have Vista running a little better. NOTE: It ran much better when OC'd but was having the BSOD's.


I have found two Athlon 64 chips for cheap but I wanted to see what you guy's thought about which would be better and might OC better also. There are differences in speed on the Mhz and on the HT Mhz so I wanted to run it by y'all first.

Here are the two i'm looking at.... And thanks for any help you can give!
1.
AMD Athlon™ 64 Details
Processor AMD Athlon™ 64
Model 3200+
Part# ADA3200AI04BX



Operating Mode 32/64

Stepping E6

Frequency 2200Mhz

HT Speed 1600

Voltage 1.40V

Max Temp 69°C

Thermal Power 59W

L1 Cache 128KB

L2 Cache 512KB

CMOS Technology 90nm SOI

Socket Socket 754


2.
Type Microprocessor-AMD ATHLON 64 3400 SOCKET 754 NewCastle

Part number ADA3400AEP4AX

Processor core NewCastle

Manufacturing process 0.13 micron SOI
Data bus width 64 bit

Package 754-pin lidded microPGA
1.57" x 1.57" (4 cm x 4 cm)

Socket Socket 754

Speed (MHz)
3400+ (rated)
2400 (real)

Stepping codes ABASC CBAEC CBASC CBAXC CBAZC

On-chip peripherals Single-channel DDR SDRAM memory controller
One 16-bit HyperTransport link with speeds up to 800 MHz

Low power features System management mode
Halt state
Stop Grant state

Other features MMX technology
SSE
SSE2

Physical memory 1 TB

Virtual memory (TB) 256

Level 1 cache size 64 KB 2-way associative instruction cache
64 KB 2-way associative data cache

Level 2 cache size 512 KB exclusive 16-way associative cache
Floating Point Unit Integrated
V core (V) 1.5

Max operating temperature (°C) 70

Thermal Design Power (W) 89

[Neuromancer]

3200 hands down.

First of all, it will run dual channel which the 754 will not, plus it was my favorite PC ever

3200 winiie, MSI board with VIA K8T800 pro chipset, and a couple 512MBs of 2-2-2-5 at 230-240MHz (46-480 effective)

Pulled 35ns mem latency and the desktop just snapped

[Jeffro64]

Originally Posted by Neuromancer

3200 hands down.

First of all, it will run dual channel which the 754 will not, plus it was my favorite PC ever

3200 winiie, MSI board with VIA K8T800 pro chipset, and a couple 512MBs of 2-2-2-5 at 230-240MHz (46-480 effective)

Pulled 35ns mem latency and the desktop just snapped

Yeah... thats the one I was leaning towards is the 3200.

I'm confused though... you said:

"First of all, it will run dual channel which the 754 will not, plus it was my favorite PC ever "

They are both socket 754.

[Neuromancer]

Oh my fault, I could have sworn I read 939 on the 3200.

I would still go for the 90nm 3200 over the 130nm 3400

I hope by cheap you mean 10 bucks Much more than that and you can go with an AM2 setup (unless you already have plenty of DDR)

[Jeffro64]

That's what i'm thinking...

[DrNip]

Haha boy memory lane. I had the Athlon 2500+ paired with an Abit NF7 mobo. Dunno if it is the same but my 2500 was a XP chip and only ran with XP.

[Neuromancer]

2500 is a socket A (462?) chip, not as powerful as the 754s

[DrNip]

Haha I thought he was referring to the 3200 Barton. My bad. Guess I went to far back.

[Jeffro64]

LOL.... I have a Athlon XP 3000+ chip that I wasn't too happy with. But it did run XP,Vista and 7 with no problems at all.