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DOM 09-08-2010 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by kikicoco1334 (Post 54122)
so SSDs helps with this bench>?!

i dont have a ssd but i gotten 1m38 on a old dell sata hd i have after my other one died on me with not so much tweaking

ps its from a p4 dell my first comp i got before i started to build my own :p

Neuromancer 09-08-2010 12:38 PM

SSDs make the differnce in the time it takes to copy waza. The idea behind copy waza (copy technique) is that you do not access the HDD for the bench. So no... SSDs do not make a differnce except in the time it takes to prep for superpi.

Waza makes 0 to -15% differnce in pifast when i tried it....(IE actually caused it to slow down a few times for me. But I did not try it alot.)

kikicoco1334 09-08-2010 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Neuromancer (Post 54127)
SSDs make the differnce in the time it takes to copy waza. The idea behind copy waza (copy technique) is that you do not access the HDD for the bench. So no... SSDs do not make a differnce except in the time it takes to prep for superpi.

Waza makes 0 to -15% differnce in pifast when i tried it....(IE actually caused it to slow down a few times for me. But I did not try it alot.)

hmm that's kinda awesome tho i don't know why wazza is not helping me much...
when rick told me how to do it and all we thought we are gonna beable run it much faster then what i had but idk why is it not doing it

also can someone help me with some of my sub timing settings?
comes to sub i have NO idea what i am doing... like zero ideas :Dizzy:
i mean yeah i know it's just matter of tweaking it till it will not boot but still...
have no idea how to or what to

HITandRUN 09-08-2010 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by kikicoco1334 (Post 54122)
so SSDs helps with this bench>?!

Well SSDs are just faster but I can't generally say every bench will be faster since I didn't tested it. What I can say is that I tested my Intel X25-E drive vs. my WD Raptor 10K drive running SPI1M and the SSD was always faster.

Also my game plan of using the Maximus P55 board for some PiFast action is pretty much dead. I can't boot any ram in the first channel. I think it needs to go home back to mama for a RMA. :D ;)

kikicoco1334 09-08-2010 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by HITandRUN (Post 54134)
Well SSDs are just faster but I can't generally say every bench will be faster since I didn't tested it. What I can say is that I tested my Intel X25-E drive vs. my WD Raptor 10K drive running SPI1M and the SSD was always faster.

Also my game plan of using the Maximus P55 board for some PiFast action is pretty much dead. I can't boot any ram in the first channel. I think it needs to go home back to mama for a RMA. :D ;)

hmm.. i may just run to work sometime this weekend and get a SSD and see if there is anything i can do with it :D

DOM 09-08-2010 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kikicoco1334 (Post 54137)
hmm.. i may just run to work sometime this weekend and get a SSD and see if there is anything i can do with it :D

make sure you got one for me ;) lol

what rev of tiny xp are you using ?

Hondacity 09-08-2010 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DOM (Post 54120)
i got me a R3E coming in next week :D tired of this mb cant clock mem for crap

i got a 18.67 pifast but nothing better :(

whats your existing mobo? and rams?

18.67 is fasttttttt

DOM 09-08-2010 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondacity (Post 54141)
whats your existing mobo? and rams?

18.67 is fasttttttt

fast ? not fast enough lol

asus p6x58d premium

gskill trident 2000 cas 9

i just ordered a R3E today cuz i cant run cas 7 2000+ for nothing tryed 1.8v , 1.65v qpi volt

so hope its the mb that sucks cuz i ran 18.67 like 5 times in a row ill post it tomorrow kind of waiting for the R3E :D

Neuromancer 09-08-2010 05:41 PM

Faster than me :( I tried 5-6-5 at 1440, 6-6-6 at 1740ish and 7-7-7 at~2000 (I forget...exactly) and cant get faster than 18.78 :(

Run uncore to 4250, and QPI craps itself after ~3800+..

I thought disabling link fast would help since QPI is not 2D specific but MAN did that hurt my scores...

Hmm I have not tried over 1.5 QPI PLL yet though...

DOM 09-08-2010 05:49 PM

what xp are you using ?

and my mb doesnt have qpi pll volt its qpi dram something lik that

Hondacity 09-08-2010 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DOM (Post 54143)
fast ? not fast enough lol

asus p6x58d premium

gskill trident 2000 cas 9

i just ordered a R3E today cuz i cant run cas 7 2000+ for nothing tryed 1.8v , 1.65v qpi volt

so hope its the mb that sucks cuz i ran 18.67 like 5 times in a row ill post it tomorrow kind of waiting for the R3E :D

thats fast ...even with those slow rams LOL. you'll be in pain once you use the r3e :D

for r3e guys....skip 704 801 901....based on splave's screenshot he's using the next bios from the original 3...

Hondacity 09-08-2010 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Neuromancer (Post 54144)
Faster than me :( I tried 5-6-5 at 1440, 6-6-6 at 1740ish and 7-7-7 at~2000 (I forget...exactly) and cant get faster than 18.78 :(

Run uncore to 4250, and QPI craps itself after ~3800+..

I thought disabling link fast would help since QPI is not 2D specific but MAN did that hurt my scores...

Hmm I have not tried over 1.5 QPI PLL yet though...

same..my qpi is 36xx or so 38xx is just too high....if you make 38xxqpi ..you're running subzero......

as dom hinted..its the os....

Kal-EL 09-08-2010 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DOM (Post 54145)
what xp are you using ?

and my mb doesnt have qpi pll volt its qpi dram something lik that

qpi/dram is vtt as far as I know on the RE3

Hondacity 09-08-2010 06:25 PM

1.65vtt ....is killer...just a warning

Neuromancer 09-08-2010 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DOM (Post 54145)
what xp are you using ?

and my mb doesnt have qpi pll volt its qpi dram something lik that

Was using winFLP w/ SP3, then I installed chuch's 130MB XP.

Not seeing any difference, except XP has more stuff running in the background ;) (only 1 more process IIRC)

Still not home, I definitely will be tomorrow to watch my sister's kids that night, so after 830 EDT I should get some more play time.

Was really hoping to get home tonight but stopped working at 10PM and it was too late to run to the 'pot and get more caulk.:thumbdown:

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Originally Posted by Kal-EL (Post 54148)
qpi/dram is vtt as far as I know on the RE3


Yeah dunno why but that happens on intel and AMD... people call the BUS clock on intel the QPI clock. and on AMD the hypertransport clock.

(AMD is kind of close, it is actully HTREF )

DOM 09-08-2010 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondacity (Post 54146)
thats fast ...even with those slow rams LOL. you'll be in pain once you use the r3e :D

for r3e guys....skip 704 801 901....based on splave's screenshot he's using the next bios from the original 3...

:Dizzy: so whats he using ?

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Originally Posted by Hondacity (Post 54147)
same..my qpi is 36xx or so 38xx is just too high....if you make 38xxqpi ..you're running subzero......

as dom hinted..its the os....

so is my qpi to high for water ?

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Originally Posted by Kal-EL (Post 54148)
qpi/dram is vtt as far as I know on the RE3

i just remembered i tryed 1.7v to get it to boot at cas7 2000+ :laughing:

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Originally Posted by Hondacity (Post 54149)
1.65vtt ....is killer...just a warning

:ohcrap:

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Originally Posted by Neuromancer (Post 54150)
Was using winFLP w/ SP3, then I installed chuch's 130MB XP.

Not seeing any difference, except XP has more stuff running in the background ;) (only 1 more process IIRC)

Still not home, I definitely will be tomorrow to watch my sister's kids that night, so after 830 EDT I should get some more play time.

Was really hoping to get home tonight but stopped working at 10PM and it was too late to run to the 'pot and get more caulk.:thumbdown:




Yeah dunno why but that happens on intel and AMD... people call the BUS clock on intel the QPI clock. and on AMD the hypertransport clock.

(AMD is kind of close, it is actully HTREF )

i dl xp rev9 ;)

thebanik 09-08-2010 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DOM (Post 54151)

i dl xp rev9 ;)

from where DOM???

rickss69 09-08-2010 07:11 PM

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I am using Tiny XP v9 available under my name in the ftp. Here are my bios screens for the Classified/Gulftown if it is of any help to anyone. I know the vcore is a little high...I need to do some voltage adjustments since I found that defective psu.

DOM 09-08-2010 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by thebanik (Post 54152)
from where DOM???

if you can dl with rapidshare i can give you the links or dl ricks
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Originally Posted by rickss69 (Post 54153)
I am using Tiny XP v9 available under my name in the ftp. Here are my bios screens for the Classified/Gulftown if it is of any help to anyone. I know the vcore is a little high...I need to do some voltage adjustments since I found that defective psu.

well see what the R3E gots :good:

Hondacity 09-08-2010 07:24 PM

ok ok 980x with 1.65vtt...........KILLLAAAA

HITandRUN 09-08-2010 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondacity (Post 54157)
ok ok 980x with 1.65vtt...........KILLLAAAA

Honda what BIOS for the R3E?

Neuromancer 09-08-2010 07:37 PM

Argh I want to go home!!!! NO more reading this thread till I am there!!

rickss69 09-08-2010 07:39 PM

Changed vcore to 1.45 volts and vtt to 1.40 volts - seems still a little high but it won't bench any lower vtt. Considering the hell this chip has been through it may not be the norm, but what it needs. (ambient cooling)

Hondacity 09-08-2010 07:39 PM

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splave's screenshot ...id try 0878 or 0010.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=250635

rickss69 09-08-2010 07:43 PM

^ Gawd! The worlds tiniest screenshot! :taunt:

DOM 09-08-2010 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by rickss69 (Post 54164)
^ Gawd! The worlds tiniest screenshot! :taunt:

i know had to put my big head up to the screen :laughing:

rickss69 09-08-2010 07:59 PM

10 more days and I may have some memory to put in the gamer... http://www.benchtec.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=6951 :D

kikicoco1334 09-08-2010 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DOM (Post 54139)
make sure you got one for me ;) lol

what rev of tiny xp are you using ?

:laughing:

Tiny XP rev9

kikicoco1334 09-08-2010 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by rickss69 (Post 54166)
10 more days and I may have some memory to put in the gamer... http://www.benchtec.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=6951 :D

WHAT THE HELL MAN!
that's just AWESOME!:shock:

HITandRUN 09-08-2010 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by rickss69 (Post 54166)
10 more days and I may have some memory to put in the gamer... http://www.benchtec.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=6951 :D

Ohh yeah I forgot all about it. ;)

rickss69 09-09-2010 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by HITandRUN (Post 54171)
Ohh yeah I forgot all about it. ;)

I don't intend to hammer it anymore, so if some of you guys want give it a whirl wear it out. I know Bustah would appreciate the traffic. :good:

DrNip 09-09-2010 12:36 AM

I'm not going to win this but still going to tweak the hell out of it and polish up my skills in the mean time. Shaved another 1 1/2 sec off my time.

Updated:

http://www.overclockaholics.com/foru...64&postcount=4

kikicoco1334 09-09-2010 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DrNip (Post 54175)
I'm not going to win this but still going to tweak the hell out of it and polish up my skills in the mean time. Shaved another 1 1/2 sec off my time.

Updated:

http://www.overclockaholics.com/foru...64&postcount=4


lol Dr you got alot to catch up here =)

DOM 09-09-2010 05:48 AM

CPU-Tweaker doesnt work for me also :( tryed older bios 1.3,1.5 nothing same lock settings

rickss69 09-09-2010 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DrNip (Post 54175)
I'm not going to win this but still going to tweak the hell out of it and polish up my skills in the mean time. Shaved another 1 1/2 sec off my time.

Updated:

http://www.overclockaholics.com/foru...64&postcount=4

Great stroking Nip! I would type "Updated" beside your name tho so Rom would be sure to notice it. :good:

rickss69 09-09-2010 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DOM (Post 54202)
CPU-Tweaker doesnt work for me also :( tryed older bios 1.3,1.5 nothing same lock settings

It must be a mb issue DOM.

kikicoco1334 09-09-2010 06:23 AM

what about my?
i can't get SetFSB or ClockGen to work on my board at all.. =(

HITandRUN 09-09-2010 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DOM (Post 54202)
CPU-Tweaker doesnt work for me also :( tryed older bios 1.3,1.5 nothing same lock settings


"memory configuration protect: disabled" on a R3E will unlock it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kikicoco1334 (Post 54211)
what about my?
i can't get SetFSB or ClockGen to work on my board at all.. =(

What is your problem exactly? What mobo?

DOM 09-09-2010 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by rickss69 (Post 54207)
It must be a mb issue DOM.

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Originally Posted by HITandRUN (Post 54214)
"memory configuration protect: disabled" on a R3E will unlock it.

guess its this mb i dont have that setting in the bios going to have to wait till monday :)

kikicoco1334 09-09-2010 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by HITandRUN (Post 54214)
"What is your problem exactly? What mobo?

i have the GA-EX58-EXTREME board, and i just can't get the clock gen or setfsb to work with it... idk why, like i can try use every one of them on the drop down list and nothing happens...
but when i had my GA-EX58-UD4P clockgen works great with it, at the time i only had a older cra:Ded version of setfsb so it didn't really work...

but now for real tho..
is overclocking from bios better or clocking for a software like this the way to go?


btw wht is clockgen now updating anymore?
like the last update was like YEARS AGO! :Dizzy: such good software tho!


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