I think you will get further with the 480 to be honest witchie, dice temps are good for 1000 core which owns the 5870 in everything minus vantage. You need ln2 for the 5870 imo.

The 480 will have tons of HW points down the road, don't worry.

Yu have to remember how freaking hard they have been to get until now.

Yea your probably right Al....

I will be crunching the nunbers on the bot to see what would be the highest scoring card would be under my circumstances .... ss/Dice

The one that comes out on top taking global and Hardware in to account will be what I am looking at buying ...... Plus I am looking for this card to end up in my gamer for the Crysis 2 action heading our way .... that beeing said the nV cards have always done a bit better with the Cryengine ....

May just hold out as well as I have so many vid cards to bench once I get back up and running ...........

:Dizzy:

Asus 5870 Matrix at the egg
 

I see it is here at last..I am guessing the 480 will hurt the sales big time.. Prolly why it is cheaper than the Euro reviews had it

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121382

These manufacturers really need to get these souped up cards to market sooner.

And get the prices down while they're at it.

Dang, they really are paranoid of the 480...Prices coming down already...

This is 70.00ish cheaper than Asus's standard 2gb 5870 + free shipping

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...odlist=froogle

Too bad I'm 5870'd out.......and I need to save money for CPU's to populate the SR-2 I'm gonna win.....

newegg pricing is just a bitch....go zzf

Yea they will end up being about 10 to 15 % slower than the 480

They need to hit that price point ....

That being said it would be a good buy at around $ 445.00 .....

I need a 5870 to maxx out hardware as it is worth a lot ....

I also need the 480 to get my globals up

On another note we may be the butt of yet another vendor joke as I have been reading the retail cards are not the 1500 Mhz core monsters that the ES cards that got everyone so excited ..... I guess they are all on that path of deception unfortunatly .....