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DrNip

07-22-2009 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Kal-EL (Post 10843)

SuperPI32m contest almost ready for launch :D

I think there ready supes.

ReverendMaynard

07-22-2009 11:09 AM

Buying $3000 in hardware to sacrifice for some boints (which are worthless imo) takes huge balls. I've done it, splave has done it...most of us have. As a majority, and I mean this with no disrespect, we the ones that pay for EVERYTHING have a right to complain about unfair advantages. ES, crappy or not do not FULLY represent the final product therefore they shouldn't be classed on the bot as the same.

RomDominance

07-22-2009 11:10 AM

My 2cents....
I commend Supes for having an entirely unique and refreshing perspective to making a name in the oc world.

3oh6, each of us have a different level of interest and viewpoints about this subject for sure. If you do something because it sustains you, its a job. If you do something because you love it, its a hobby or passion. If what you do provides both, your a lucky man. If that something is oc'n, then your a pro....and obviously operate within an environment that has way more advantages to aquiring boints than the rest of us.....not the most level playing field if you ask me, but se la vi. :alien:

Splave

07-22-2009 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by 3oh6 (Post 10841)

free?

your definition of free and mine must be completely different. working my ass off, sacrificing everything from work to life to love, giving up on numerous other hobbies i enjoy, sleeping next to nothing for weeks/months on end, not eating properly at times because i can't afford food, not buying new clothes, shoes, entertainment...is not free in my definition of the word.

i'm sorry but suggesting that i receive anything free is a joke and truly outlines your lack of knowledge as to what goes into a computer hardware review. i don't fault you for it, but please try to understand what you are implying with statements like that. don't get me wrong, i am not complaining about all those sacrifices, if i was, i simply wouldn't continue to do it. and yes i enjoy doing what i do, and why i make the sacrifices i do, but i sure as hell don't get anything free...anything.

heck, i got the F1EE today from Vince, it was "free"...or was it? ask anyone who put in time and effort to compete in the 01 low clock challenge if they had won the competition if the prize would have been free? something tells me that is a unanimous NO vote.

Free as in you didnt have to spend money on the 975 ES, yes that is free. I understand you work hard, I understand you obviously have skillz to pay the billz, you just sound so bitter and self loathing in your posts. You love computers, and you love tweaking them whats better than getting free stuff to review etc.

Is it really that bad man? To mess around and bench 01 and win a sick prize?

Kal-EL

07-22-2009 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ReverendMaynard (Post 10846)

True

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Originally Posted by RomDominance (Post 10847)

True

There are many perspectives on ES, some include bot comparisons, leagues, level playin fields, sanctioned contests, hobby benching, revenue generating reviews, etc.

Its easy to cross over between the different subject matters and perspectives. Everyone's goals are different and the venue's different. The bot has its work cut out to address all these concerns from a bot-whore perspective.
__________________________________________________ ______

Something that I mentioned to a few people is.........
Why in the world doesnt North America have its own version of an "Hwbot" type
database? We have some of the best coders on teh planet. How hard would it be
to garner the support of Microsoft, Intel, AMD, Nvidia, etc to band together in a
co-op to provide an un-biased code developement to facilitate a database of this
magnatude and support it? The benefits to all these companies in the way of research
and developement, the double edged sword of product performance publicity, and the
generation of new interest and buying power of new enthusiasts are astounding.

2cents

rickss69

07-22-2009 11:32 AM

Are we witnessing a revolution? A North American Hwbot would be killer! Great idea Kal...when you firing it up? ohcrap :rofl

Cecil

07-22-2009 11:41 AM

One possitive to unfair chips, it makes us work harder to beat them :thumbsup:

Kal-EL

07-22-2009 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by rickss69 (Post 10855)

Are we witnessing a revolution? A North American Hwbot would be killer! Great idea Kal...when you firing it up? ohcrap :rofl

I'll have to co-ordinate my many endless contacts in the industry :blush: first. Actually I was gonna ask RichBastard if he'd license his engine to use on this forum/website but changed my mind.

And wouldnt u know it, the internet connection is down in my area. Good thing I got the work laptop that has a different connection, slow as it is. to_keep_order

ocgmj

07-22-2009 12:09 PM

Did the coconuts hit the fiber line again? :rofl

2chesapeakes

07-22-2009 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 3oh6 (Post 10841)

free?

heck, i got the F1EE today from Vince, it was "free"...or was it? ask anyone who put in time and effort to compete in the 01 low clock challenge if they had won the competition if the prize would have been free? something tells me that is a unanimous NO vote.

Yes if you did not send in cash then the pot was free. If you are not paying for hardware then yes it is free someone is giving it to you. I do commend you for the additional time you put in for the hardware and the excellent write ups.

rickss69

07-22-2009 12:50 PM

Most of us would participate regardless of a "prize". We just like to bench.:thumbsup:

Splave

07-22-2009 01:01 PM

^ right on rickster

Kal-EL

07-22-2009 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ocgmj (Post 10870)

Did the coconuts hit the fiber line again? :rofl

Yep, looks like its gonna be spotty for while tho but I'm back in action.

I'll see if I can organize a pro's vs joe's overclocking contest too, :scared:

Buckeye

07-22-2009 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Kal-EL (Post 10882)

Yep, looks like its gonna be spotty for while tho but I'm back in action.

I'll see if I can organize a pro's vs joe's overclocking contest too, :scared:

Dang where will I fit it in on that contest then... you need a noob ranking :)

Kal-EL

07-22-2009 01:48 PM

I think it'd build some bridges to have an event like eh?

Pro's handicapped to air only and joe's stuck to water?

Neuromancer

07-22-2009 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by RomDominance (Post 10847)

Freaking well said

Its C'est la vie though (say la vee)

Cecil

07-22-2009 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Kal-EL (Post 10895)

I think it'd build some bridges to have an event like eh?

Pro's handicapped to air only and joe's stuck to water?

For something like that, I suggest keeping it to 775 and AM2/AM3 chips as well. Only thing is, how to tell if a Joe is lying.

sofos1990

07-22-2009 10:06 PM

I vote ES in the game:D
In bot there are many good cpus(Brian y., hipro5, AndreYang and many other guys) that are not ES......:D

eva2000

07-22-2009 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 3oh6 (Post 10844)

i believe that keeping the samples is the norm for the industry of small to mid range sites. there have been very few times over the course of my review career that i have been asked to return hardware. i have also only written for two sites so both would be considered small to mid-size, although i think HardwareCanucks is getting close to the bigger end of the mid-size spectrum.

i think it is understood reviewers do this on their own time for small sites and manufacturers understand the hardware is their compensation.

as for the new Dom GT's, as soon as i saw the thread here i fired out a PM to my director to see what we could do. i know Corsair was interested in sending one of TEC cooling units so hopefully i can get one of the new 2000 CL7's with it. now that i have a CPU that can clock memory to almost 1200MHz, i am not scared of those bad boy GT's anymore :D

Yeah I've never been asked to send anything back that i review/test. Then again I always decline the offers if there's a time limit and I have to send it back - just not enough time with all the testing I do and incentive if the gear has to go back :D

Jody with TEC RAM cooling eek scary :)

Personally, I don't see any problems with ES being on hwbot as most retail cpus will eventually spank them - hell even my 2x i7 920 3836A756 C0 step cpus spanked the crap out of early i7 965 ES samples on just plain TRUE120 air!

Kal-EL

07-22-2009 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by eva2000 (Post 10971)

Looking around I think thats true of the Intel ES chips. AMD "Special" chips seem a bit further along that what you'll get retail, if you know what I mean.

Chuchnit

07-23-2009 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Kal-EL (Post 10983)

Looking around I think thats true of the Intel ES chips. AMD "Special" chips seem a bit further along that what you'll get retail, if you know what I mean.

I think thats the main problem. AMD retails don't come anywhere close to their ES.

Neuromancer

07-24-2009 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuchnit (Post 11007)

I think thats the main problem. AMD retails don't come anywhere close to their ES.

I thought the TWKR chip was already outclocked by a retail quad hitting 7GHz?

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