amen! :d

cheats dont mess with kal-el to_keep_order :D

any help with getting cputweaker to show mhz?

Might be a Windows 7 incompatibility thing.

I just got to ask as I can't get 1.52 version to glitch like this for me but are any of you running your rig with c1e, speedstep or anything like this enabled that might be causing it to do this?

I never saw it either Nip. One and the same for me.

It worked fine for me and I've got all that stuff turned off.

I have it all turned off too. I am just wondering if it is glitching on guys that might have any of these enabled.

no glitch here for me, I like that its smaller lol

nips you on xp? I cant get close to your score man rofl

W00t! Been waiting for this one guys cool2

Just got the MSI Eclipse Plus insulated. Hope kingston can get me my hypers back quick from RMA (will be seeing if they scale with LN2 muahaha)!!! Otherwise its time for high QPI + D9GTR's... :D

Good luck to everyone:thumbsup:

Yep I'm on XP. I brought my jedi skillz to the table this time. Thinking I might have to hook up my pot to get the cpu cooler so I can run an 18 mult with RAM at 2140MHz. :D

Wish I had some faster memory. These wont go over 1750ish.

That's what it comes down too.

:sign15::poopinghorse::green8:

I am not goin with that....I'm running my GT's at 2016MHz 7-7-7-18 54 1T , my uncore at 25x 4200+ as leaned and tweaked as it gets and can't get below
11m2s.....whats the deal?:shock:

Rom what tweaks are you using?

word, and Win7 destroys XP in 32m.

Yeah that will explain slow times.... gotta have 2k3 or xp, its really a must if you wish to compete.

HAHA Kingston comes through.... just got this in my inbox! Please dont end it before 8/3 pretty pretty please with sprinkles on top :)

Scheduled Delivery Date:
08/03/2009
Shipped To:
BUFFALO, NY, US
Shipped/Billed On:
07/27/2009
Type:
Package
Service:
GROUND
Weight:
1.20 Lbs

windows 7 x32 is way faster than xp and 7 x64. Never tryed server 2k3 though. :D

what spliggity said.

On my top end 32m, Win 7 32b beats XP tweaked to the nuts by approx. 20sec.

Are you guys stripping XP down proper? I would imagine if Win 7 was truly faster than XP we would see win7 at the top rankings in hwbot. As it stands now 2k3 server and XP rule the roost. Got any screenies for comparison?

I think (or hope) that they are joking chuch

I will do a run on my Windows 7 HDD for comparison between my XP run and it.

Would be nice for reference, but I would literally shat myself if 7 is faster:Dizzy:

start "shatting".

lol we will see

Each bench ran 3 times taking the best score for each

-Operating systems-
XP Beast Edition with reg tweaks only (no max mem, or large sys cache)
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 no tweaks
Windows 7 Ultimate x32 no tweaks

-Benchies-
::Wprime 32m
::Wprime 1024m
::Superpi 1m
::Superpi 32m
::PiFast

-Setup-
::i7 920 d0 @ 200.5x21 = 4210mhz (201 set in bios)
::eVGA classified 4/17/2009 bios
::Kingston HyperX ddr3-2000 cas 9 @ 802mhz 8-8-8-24-1t
::Sparkle 9800gtx 512mb
::HEC Cougar 1kw
::3x Western digital caviar drives (same model, and caches, different sizes 320 300 250)

::wPrime 32m::
1st 5.179 XP
2nd 5.876 W7 x32
3rd 5.967 W7 x64

::wPrime 1024m::
1st 182.123 W7 x64
2nd 182.155 XP
3rd 183.657 W7 x32

::Superpi 1m::
1st 9.609 XP
2nd 9.641 W7 x32
3rd 9.672 W7 x64

::Superpi 32m::
1st 8:50.516 W7 x32
2nd 8:54.344 W7 x64
3rd 9:06.219 XP

::Pifast::
1st 20.11 XP
2nd 20.16 W7 x32
3rd 20.19 W7 x64


Have screens but why would I lie lol


In other news lol, Ive never shaved any time using maxmem in any os. Thought 600mb is standard for 32m? 1st time I gained 5 seconds seconds

Well your XP isnt properly tweaked then

I can do a clock for clock comparison with reverendmaynard's best time on hwbot. He has 8m25.xxx s @ 4505Mhz in Windows 7

I will use XPSP3 or 2k3 maybe both if I have time

In other news ill beat it by at least 3 seconds same clocks/ram etc ;)

And im not just making numbers up. Use performance product (PP) calculation to estimate your pi efficiency (cpu clock * pi time in seconds). You can then extrapolate/interpolate times at different clock speeds. The lower the PP the better your efficiency.

Im at work so I can only use examples from hwbot profiles. For instance in Reverend's run, 505.680 seconds * 4505 cpu = 2278088.4 PP

Versus my run 421.3 seconds * 5009 cpu = 2154768.7 PP

If you want to see my pi time at 4505 simply substitute... x * 4505 = 2154768.7. X=478.306 seconds. So I should theoretically be able to beat that score by a half minute or so. Now if I match my ram clocks to his that gap would of course close a little, but XP is still faster.

win XP 32m copy wazza, 14 processes, tweaked to almost lost functionality.
http://www.hwbot.org/compare.do?resultId=840922

7 32b, no tweaks.
http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=852711

bit of a frquency deficit as well.

same timings, really no other changes...except that it's on a different mobo, but honestly, the Gigabyte board is out right faster clock for clock regardless.

We can throw down lots, and lots of stuff to back this up so expect a flood from the boys.

We wouldn't run it if it was slower. Maybe all these pro's just haven't figured out how to hack 7 to get an edge over us "n00bs". ;)

beat it by 20+ seconds at the same settings, timings and what not and I'll call hax lol.

Lol well your a right nasty git arent you. Im trying to help you and you give attitude. Im gonna beat it by 20 seconds and you can eat your words... :D

Im not making things up your efficiency in XP is awful, and in 7 its better, but still not good.

Looking at your screenies I see at least 5 errors slowing you down.

I'm in the same boat Cecil. I did manage to clock my 1600 ram up to 1884 with relaxed timings, but it didn't translate into better times.

Sorry for any disrespect.

what are the magic settings than karma? Ive dont max mem tweaking large system cache copy wazza etc and I have like 10 process on a windows install that is about 3oombs. what are you going to do different?

LOL im just supposed to spill the beans huh? Ive combed more forums in more languages than I care to count to assemble my pi tweaks. You mention 3 things. Im not gonna give away the cake but if you want to try to find some useful things...

Look in the registry (I use over 25 reg tweaks), look in device manager, my pi install is 6 services and 7 processes and 92mb, certain ram subtimings have a big impact, OS appearance, priority&affinity, pagefile, copywaza file size, among many more that I dont give out in public forums anyways.

For socket 775 a good one to try is Pmem to change MCH strap offset registers (can shave seconds off a run).

Pi tweaking is about taking your time and really experimenting. Superpi is a very sensitive program that responds to very slight changes in your OS and BIOS settings. In total I probably use 50 or more tweaks for a proper run. Takes some time to get it all done, but I use images and a IDE/SATA hdd dock to keep times <5mins for a OS reimage.

I will release my tweaks after the competition. Pretty much I am only doing 5 tweaks. Only one of them is a registry tweak.

[puts on hat]

Gents, lets keep it clean and to the facts. If you have proof for the pudding then post it up. No need to start getting personal. Consider this a warning for no further attacks.

[/takes off hat]

Karmakazi, we are all about sharing information around here. If you got something you want to share, then share away :)

Maybe we need to start a thread to do some real performance evaluation between the two OS's? Of course you have to compare with proper tweaks applied; not fresh full install to fresh full install.

Did putting the word pro is italics somehow make that a reference too you karma?

Before telling people to shove attitudes up their arses, check yours. :thumbdown:

Great idea Chuch!

Wasnt being arrogant just want to learn. Imo secret tweaks :thumbdown:

OK so because I did the leg work (at least 300+ hours reading crappy google translations, and another 100+ hours testing) I should just give it to you ? NONE of my tweaks are "secrets" they can ALL be found PUBLICALLY on the internet. I wasnt refering to you being arrogant, your a cool person from what Ive seen you post here and @ XS, I was referring to reverend. Maybe I will give some out AFTER the 32M comp publically. Otherwise you can speak to me on MSN if you want to know something more.

Im a levelheaded and nice person, totally willing to help people. But I will stand up for what I know to be right also.