I cleaned the socket really good now with QD cleaner and dried it out with a hair-dryer and the Vantec....the spray air was a waste of money.

I think the 1055T is deceased for some reason. What I mean is why did it just quit working even if some undetected moisture got in the socket it was greased.

Maybe it was a bad chip? In order for me to overclock the NB to 3GHz I had to pump 1.48-1.5v through the cpu/NB. Everyone else I've talked to says that is way higher than what they need.

The most I ever gave the vcore was 1.63v and only long enough for a validation, although it was by no means hot. And since hooking up the chiller I ran the chip @ 4.5GHz/1.6v for a couple hours. I tried playing GRID and it crashed. So I backed off to the regular 4GHz/1.46v, and the system froze up after awhile while I was typing a reply here.

Who knows? I just ordered a Phenom II x4 965BE 3.4GHz C3/125w from the egg. That's a better chip anyways. I sure as hell don't need 6 cores. It's just a waste of energy and extra heat. If I only knew then what I know now I would have bought one of these in the first place.

Shit happens...but what's the deal with the grease? I've gotten mixed answers here. :blink: Is it best/safest to just unseat the chiller every day and make sure everything gets dry? Better solution than grease?

Is it a regular thing for condensation to form on the cpu pins/socket and short out peoples cpus? Can I only use the chiller for a couple hours at a time? Maybe I didn't do enough research.

EDIT: at least I have the 4.5GHz cpu-z validation and screen shot for HWBOT:shock: to remember it by.

IIRC one of the guys was saying the other day that those chips die pretty easily.

Hmm......when you say those chips do you mean the Thubans or AMDs? I sure hope the 965 Deneb fares better. Should be easier to OC with the unlocked multiplier!

Out of boredom I decided to post up some closer-up pictures of my block insulation setup for anyone that is interested.

As you can see from the pictures there are 3 layers of insulation that go on top of the paper towel gasket....2 under the block and 1 over it then the plywood hold down plate. It seems to be pretty good...the only place I saw frost was on the pump.

The first layer only allows the cpu socket to see through, the second only allows the face of the block....I think I'll redo that layer so only a cpu sized section is uncovered....and the third layer obviously only allows the hoses through. I had to either cut that one in half or make the hole bigger. I chose to cut it.

The last picture is my system sitting there with a dead cpu in it.

I hope you enjoy.

yikes....i don't think that thing will insulate..

that pump looks great...how much is that?

That insulation worked very well. What exactly do you mean?

The pump was free...my uncle had it stashed away somewhere. It came off a veterinarian trailer. Pumps ~ 1 gallon a minute.

I love the time and effort you've put into this chiller bro, your drive and determination are both commendable and admirable. You sir, "Foster the FEVER!" :D

ny - Me thinks that the Thubans just can't take the constant pressure like Intel's.

I never use grease in my sockets and have never had an issue. You might seal the edges of the chip with a little eraser is all I can think of atm.

AMD will rma that chip...they did for me with no hassle. :good:

Thanks Kal, I definitely do. In the past 6 months I have graduated from air to water to chiller, and finally a few months ago sold off the 939 rigs except 1(Neo2Plat/Opty170/2GBOCZPlat/x850pro), and built this.

Sorry for my ignorance Rick, but what do you mean constant pressure? And do you mean put eraser all around the surface of the chip and the socket? Once I got the chip seated I put more Dragon Skin around the edges of the chip and socket to seal it up better, but it doesn't really stick to the edge of the IHS

Ohh I forgot to mention how I stupidly bought a brand new chest freezer to make a radiator cooler, drilled two nice holes in the top for hoses and it didn't work nearly as good as I had hoped except for first thing in the morning for a couple hours...then it's just average water cooled temps.

23 hours after I placed my order with Newegg....my chip is here in my hand. :thumbsup:

965BE
HDZ965FBK4DGM
CACAC AC 1014DPMW


Going to pop it in and see if it comes back to life now.:)

FYI.. you only need 3+ GHz on cpuNB speed if you are running 2000+MHz ram.

Rule is 3 times ram speed (2000 = 1000MHz)

However faster cpuNB can help in 2D tasks the difference is pretty minimal. For benching I increase it (hey if it is an extra couple seconds in 32M I am in :)) but for general overclocking not necessary.

Thanks for that information. I have never heard that formula/rule before.

Off to test the 965...if it works I shut down and this afternoon I re-insulate the board and try again with no grease.

So it seems the cpu wasn't the problem. Another motherboard, I just RMAd it a month ago. New one should be here Friday.

I'm hooking up the 939 rig tonight as my laptop seems to be ill.

This thread sure brings some interesting memories back. My congrats to the addicted one! Amazing build.

Thanks a lot bro! Got the new Crosshair IV just now from ASUS advanced RMA/fedex overnight.

Apparently I failed to insulate well enough on the last board or maybe it was a leak, but either way........ I don't want to let this happen again. I think I'll use thin strips of electrical tape to keep the dragon skin from seeping under things.

Don't you guys get condensation forming around the edge of where the cpu is making contact with the HS, and then dripping down into the cpu socket? I'm very concerned about this now, because that seems like the most likely place for water to get where it isn't supposed to.

I need some advice...going to be re-insulating later on after I make sure everything is working.

Thanks!

The trick in both Lga and PGA sockets is to make the cpu area air tight. I do not put grease in or around the socket. Sealing the area around the cpu with eraser works fine by itself. you can insulate up the side of the socket and cpu to the very top edge of teh ihs and not interfere with the cooler (wb/ evap/pot) at all.

so I would try the eraser method until you get the dragon skin method perfected. Make it thin on the mobo, and gradually mound it up around teh socket until you have it up level with the cpu. Make sure it is pressed tight to the sides of the socket and cpu and your worries are over. :thumbsup:

Thanks FACE, I'm going to get the kneaded eraser and use that in addition to the dragon skin right around the socket and give it another go.

I'm up and running again with the 965BE now.

I stuck my bad memory module in the freezer for like 2-3 days and it works again too.

I'm ready to party dudes:D!

A little eraser around the perimeter of the cpu is all you need...not even neccessary to seal it to the Dragon Skin. :thumbsup:


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"Sorry for my ignorance Rick, but what do you mean constant pressure? And do you mean put eraser all around the surface of the chip and the socket? Once I got the chip seated I put more Dragon Skin around the edges of the chip and socket to seal it up better, but it doesn't really stick to the edge of the IHS "

What I meant ny was I think the Thuban will degrade quickly after some spectacular benching blasts...maybe not die but never perform as well as it did initially.

Just read back thru the thread and in post #93 is where you had the massive water leak. I would be very careful about using Dragon Skin like you are around the cpu socket...you think the grease was hard to remove. :ohcrap:

Everywhere else the Dragon Skin is fine except in the dimm/pci sockets of course. You want it to flow under and around everything, just as water would do.

Thanks for the picture....it lets me know it doesn't have to be pretty:laughing:EDIT: THanks for the explanation too...I didn't see it down there at first.

I'm gonna overclock the piss out of this 965BE. I got it IBT/max stress stable @ 4GHz/1.428v and not chilling the chiller...max core temp of 39c. It's the 194th chip off the wafer so it should be pretty good I hear. My 1055T is the 247th chip.:thumbsup:

By tonight I'll be chilling it and also have my 2x4890s back on water and my new loop with cool blue washer fluid, which is going to look pretty sweet.

Stop back later for pictures.

Have you skinned the cards as well?


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You aren't saying let it flow under the edges of the cpu socket are you? But you do let it run under the DIMMS and PCI-E slots? I'd rather it didn't...I have my board tilted so water can only run off the back and not towards the pci-e slots.

Are you sure it's ok to let it run under the DIMMS?

Sorry to ask so many questions, but I really don't want to fuck this up again. ASUS won't do another advanced replacement.

EDIT: not chilling the cards.

Yes, let it flow under anything it is able to...that will prevent any moisture from gaining access to those areas. Just don't get it inside the sockets as that would prevent good contact. Dragon Skin will not harm anything as it is non-conductive.

EVEN the cpu socket? It's not going to prevent anything from making contact? I need to google some pictures of the inside of a AM3 socket for my own peace of mind.

Not inside the socket where the chip sits ny - around the perimeter of the socket where it meets the motherboard. That is where the water will want to go if it is not covered/protected with skin.


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Right...I didn't mean in the holes. I just meant could it run too far under the edges around the base and interfere with the pins making contact and really fuck me? Remember the pins are on the chip.

No, it will not harm anything there. This is the best I could do...I am no artist. :taunt:

Same for AM3...


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That's about what I did. Here is a picture of the peeled skin.

Any pointers?

Yes - Quit peeling it off...:taunt: (Sorry, I could'nt help myself lol)

I'm certainly hoping to.:thumbsup:

That peeled skin picture is pretty cool looking. Everyone should throw pics of their peeled skins and put together a gallery thread. FTW!

My new skin is pretty thick. That's not going to hurt anything is it?

The chiller is chilling now, all I have left to do is apply the kneaded eraser, mount the water block, and throw the switch.

I'm so happy that everything is going good. I'm much more comfortable with my application of Dragon Skin this time. I skinned it right up to the surface of the cpu so no air already, but I'll put a ring of eraser around it anyways.

About to eat a pizza and then I'll be back with live updates.:)

OK....so far so good. No leaks, no moisture. Still no thermometer on the chip though.:blush:

Software says 7c right now, and has been as low as 4c. I think I may be getting near the gelling point of the coolant because it went up 2-3 degrees....after I ran through 3dmark06 @ 4.5GHz/1.55v:cool3:..............the 1055t wouldn't do that @ 1.6v. I just guessed that 1.55v might do it. I'm sure things will change.

I went from 3.4GHz to 4GHz to 4.5GHz...lol...I wonder if it will run IBT or anything really stressful. I'll keep you posted and get some pics up in just a few minutes.

Thanks a lot guys!! I am really happy with the results of the 2nd attempt.

This cold shit rules. No way could I run this chip @ 4.5Ghz before the chiller. :thumbsup:

Pics added: The front(never took out the memory), the back, the eraser I removed because it was too thick, didn't stick to anything, and didn't seem to be doing anything to help matters, and the whole system in poor lighting. I'll get some better daylight pics tomorrow.

im impressed mate :)

dont worry about IBT, we measure stability by having the benchmark you are planning to run finish! :)

That's an insulation job good enough for ln2! I'm glad you have her worked out...

I wonder if anyone can get away with flowing the skin on that thick around a LGA socket... :blink:

Word.. if it handles wprime 1024... its uber stable. (IE... you need to clock more LOL)

Gotcha! I like that kind of stability better. If I can race...it's stable! Waiting for a download now making coffee.:ohcrap:

I'm hoping to not have to remove the cpu for awhile or until I want to.

EDIT:
I always hated prime.

That's pretty thick...just be uber careful you don't let any flow into the cpu socket, it won't be pretty. :thumbsup:

(Next time I would mask the edges of the cpu with tape before skinning if you are going that high with the level)

It's not quite that thick, I spread it up on the edges of the cpu. I filled in every possible air opening in that socket around the chip. I'm hoping it's good to go without regular removal. I'm too lazy for that, plus moving shit around is how leaks happen. I did all the skinning with cpu installed.

It's working perfect right now I don't want to touch it until I must install the thermometer probe.