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Chuchnit 06-13-2009 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffro64 (Post 4582)
Oh I like the 3D benches too.... just haven't had much time and was just trying to test and dial in some settings on the AMD rig at higher clocks. But yeah, that's what I told Frank when we were discussing boards... I can go with the UD5 now and play around with it and if i'm not satisfied I can always try the Classy later. Besides... I would have had to wait longer if I went with the Classy now. I just hope I can find a nf200 board when I do look to buy one.

I figured you like 3d too, but you and Rogue seem like 2d junkies :D Still I think with your personality thats the best choice for you. I don't mean that in a bad way either ;)

ReverendMaynard 06-13-2009 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuchnit (Post 4578)
Jeffro, I was having a discussion about you a couple days ago. I actually said the UD5 would prolly be the best board for you. You seem to like 2d benches ALOT!! The gigabyte board won't hit the huge bclocks as the classified, but it is way more efficient; aka you will get way better scores clock for clock in your wprime, spi, and pifast. :D Plus I think the gigabyte has the most practical slot layout for a gaming purposes than all other i7 boards.

I can back that statement up fully. Clock for clock, the Gigabyte X58 boards beat up everything out there. If you plan on hitting 210-215 max bclk the UD4/UD5/Extreme are the boards to use.

Jeffro64 06-13-2009 09:16 AM

Well.... Maybe i'll finally have a good gaming setup when I get done benching the UD5. Although I think I fixed the problem I was having with my GTX280's... still, it will be a i7 rig.

Chuchnit 06-13-2009 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ReverendMaynard (Post 4584)
I can back that statement up fully. Clock for clock, the Gigabyte X58 boards beat up everything out there. If you plan on hitting 210-215 max bclk the UD4/UD5/Extreme are the boards to use.

The super pi efficiency on those giga boards are almost scary. If it wasn't for the uber extra clocks the Classified can get, the giga might be king right now. Some people are able to get nice efficiency out of the Classified too, but it's usually uber memory sub-timing tweakers that get it. Or maybe they have a Shamino's personal phone number. :cool:

Jeffro64 06-13-2009 09:29 AM

LOL... I guess that would be a good number to have. Although I think if everyone on the team here talked more and shared info and helped each other more than we do now that we would see some really good scores come about. I really like this board and our team and will work hard to help us move up... I got a lot to learn but i'm getting there! Once I have a better understanding I will give back by helping out whenever I can... although I can't imagine ever knowing as much as some of you guy's do, I'm just a backwoods country boy LOL.

punx223 06-13-2009 10:26 AM

the 2 classifieds can clock basically the same to eachother the only difference is the nf200.... i have tested both and both closk the same, not to mention even running sli 280's your not gonna see a bottleneck as most cards today cannot saturate a pcie X8 bus let alone a X16 bud

ReverendMaynard 06-13-2009 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuchnit (Post 4591)
The super pi efficiency on those giga boards are almost scary. If it wasn't for the uber extra clocks the Classified can get, the giga might be king right now. Some people are able to get nice efficiency out of the Classified too, but it's usually uber memory sub-timing tweakers that get it. Or maybe they have a Shamino's personal phone number. :cool:

I got his number. 1-888-WET-POKE. (j/k)

The eVGA vanilla board runs the same as the Classified efficiency wise. I just ran 06 4.5 HT on, cpu score was 7600+. On the Extreme same bench at 4.4ghz scored 8400+ on the cpu score. That's a huge ding on the total right there. I do find the eVGA is a bit better at 32m pi, but gets spanked in everything else by significant margins. Which brings me to a point lol. The Classified and it's relatives are awesome boards, but there is a shi* ton of automatic subtimings being loosened at the IMC/QPI level to achieve the high bclks we're seeing.

Jeffro64 06-13-2009 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by punx223 (Post 4604)
the 2 classifieds can clock basically the same to eachother the only difference is the nf200.... i have tested both and both closk the same, not to mention even running sli 280's your not gonna see a bottleneck as most cards today cannot saturate a pcie X8 bus let alone a X16 bud


This is good to know! I do hope some nf200's pop back up but if not that is good news.

hellcamino 06-13-2009 10:37 AM

What QPI/VTT are you using Nip? Mine will prime for hours at .960 vcore but it requires 1.215 QPI/VTT even for stock speeds. I still haven't broken 1.4v on the QPI yet and 4.4ghz is almost stable..

Chuchnit 06-13-2009 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffro64 (Post 4596)
LOL... I guess that would be a good number to have. Although I think if everyone on the team here talked more and shared info and helped each other more than we do now that we would see some really good scores come about. I really like this board and our team and will work hard to help us move up... I got a lot to learn but i'm getting there! Once I have a better understanding I will give back by helping out whenever I can... although I can't imagine ever knowing as much as some of you guy's do, I'm just a backwoods country boy LOL.

Well Jeffro the problem is a few things. First, with your problems hellcamino is the only one that could remotely help you with AMD clocking. I sure wish I could have helped more, but that bios looked like chinese to me :rofl Another problem is time. I have tons of ideas for guides and such, but I am very limited on the time I have to do them. Really its a learning process for me too. I just search the net for all these tweaks the "honorable" guys won't share cause they make their living doing this.

I haven't been able to bench much lately either, but when I do I try and take notes. Thats so either if I have time, or if someone asks, I can post my personal settings.

Now for the biggest problem of all. We are a very small team. 13 hwbot members to be exact. I love it that way, but that means the probability of us having the same board is very small. Therefore the settings are somewhat useless. Yet have no fear because it looks like this forum is going Classified drunk :D We should definitely be able to help each other out now. Then you and Frank are going to have the same board this time. That's always a good thing to have two or more members with the same hardware. Just give it time buddy, and I'll contribute what I can to get some valuable info on the board soon. Hell I gotta get back to the 32m guide and redo the whole thing. :rofl I just don't think those results are accurate and I don't wanna mislead you guys.

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Originally Posted by punx223 (Post 4604)
the 2 classifieds can clock basically the same to eachother the only difference is the nf200.... i have tested both and both closk the same, not to mention even running sli 280's your not gonna see a bottleneck as most cards today cannot saturate a pcie X8 bus let alone a X16 bud

Oh go ahead and keep bragging about getting paid to play with uber hardware all day :p I'm telling you bro. You are in uber shape to keep pushing the buttons to be sponsered with atleast a couple free peices of gear :cool:

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Originally Posted by ReverendMaynard (Post 4605)
I got his number. 1-888-WET-POKE. (j/k)

The eVGA vanilla board runs the same as the Classified efficiency wise. I just ran 06 4.5 HT on, cpu score was 7600+. On the Extreme same bench at 4.4ghz scored 8400+ on the cpu score. That's a huge ding on the total right there. I do find the eVGA is a bit better at 32m pi, but gets spanked in everything else by significant margins. Which brings me to a point lol. The Classified and it's relatives are awesome boards, but there is a shi* ton of automatic subtimings being loosened at the IMC/QPI level to achieve the high bclks we're seeing.

hahaha I'll give him a call later :rofl

Ya that is a rather large difference considering how weighted the cpu score is in 06. Like I said there have been some people post up some really efficient scores up. Either they know what some of those confusing settings do to tighten things back up, or they are getting supplied with modded bios'es.


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