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kikicoco1334 03-30-2010 02:58 PM

almost done with it! [please read #18]
 
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it's been about 3 weeks from last time i worked on my system at all...
just installed my new water tank, i just got the Thermal Take Aqua M3 1U Tank off ebay lol :laughing:
pic 1-14 are my system up to now..

pic 1 and 2 are the main part of the watercooler i am using the everything from that set

pic 3 is the new toy i just got it's a tank made by ThermalTake looks kinda cool and i can put a HELL LOT MORE water in it now lol

pic 4 is the thermal compound the only Korean thing i will ever put my hands on well... Zalman stuff...

pic 5 is my Q6600 G0 lapped nicely

pic 6 is the extra liquid that came out of the stock Coolermaster system..
can i or can i not mix coolermaster water and Thermaltake water in one system?

pic 7 is the water i put in the system... seems like it's just stander drinking water, there is nothing in it, is that good for the system or not?

pic 8 is just a closer look of the tank

pic 9 the water flower

pic 10 is the in and out put connection of the tank, very bentable :thumbsup:

pic 11 and 12 is this a good idea? cuz the the thing will not fit around it

pic 13 you see how on the black tub there is a thing around the end, but on the green one there is not one on it [will not fit]

pic 14 that's just a extra water block that came with the system and just sitting by my 80mm fan, it keeps IT cool :D not really sure if that helps or not, it seems like it did

what do you guys think?
i really think i need another bigger water readitor, and a hell alot stronger pump in my system

Kal-EL 03-30-2010 03:03 PM

Question is....... Does it suit your purposes?

kikicoco1334 03-30-2010 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kal-EL (Post 33448)
Question is....... Does it suit your purposes?

personally i don't think it did much, with out a better water block
and also a RADIATOR
but working on this thing just makes me happier

Hondacity 03-30-2010 03:44 PM

watercooling is fun...until you find out..LN2 is so much more fun :D

Kal-EL 03-30-2010 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kikicoco1334 (Post 33449)
personally i don't think it did much, with out a better water block
and also a RADIATOR
but working on this thing just makes me happier

Kiki, if you can find an old a/c unit that someone is throwing away or doesnt want anymore, you can convert it into your water=cooling plans and supercharge the cooling portion of your plans.

A quality pump would be needed to move the coolant around at sub-zero temps, insulation prep on the mobo but you'lre gonna get much better results. ;)

ocgmj 03-30-2010 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kikicoco1334 (Post 33449)
personally i don't think it did much, with out a better water block
and also a RADIATOR
but working on this thing just makes me happier

If your having fun than it's worth it. :thumbsup:

FACE 03-30-2010 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kal-EL (Post 33463)
Kiki, if you can find an old a/c unit that someone is throwing away or doesnt want anymore, you can convert it into your water=cooling plans and supercharge the cooling portion of your plans.

A quality pump would be needed to move the coolant around at sub-zero temps, insulation prep on the mobo but you'lre gonna get much better results. ;)

+1 Homebrew chillers rule. You probably need clamps on the green tubes. :thumbsup:

kikicoco1334 03-31-2010 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kal-EL (Post 33463)
Kiki, if you can find an old a/c unit that someone is throwing away or doesnt want anymore, you can convert it into your water=cooling plans and supercharge the cooling portion of your plans.

A quality pump would be needed to move the coolant around at sub-zero temps, insulation prep on the mobo but you'lre gonna get much better results. ;)


old ac got it!


but how can a water cooling system with fan and air become sub zero temp? i have always wanna ask that

kikicoco1334 03-31-2010 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ocgmj (Post 33464)
If your having fun than it's worth it. :thumbsup:

i am happy when i am overclocking... :laughing:
until i can't improve and keeps trying and trying for 8hrs and staying at the same place it's just like WTF DUDE!
but yeah i love been here i love working on my computer and car or anything that's gonna keep me working lol


loved the shit outta my x but now it's only my x </3

FACE 03-31-2010 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kikicoco1334 (Post 33594)
old ac got it!


but how can a water cooling system with fan and air become sub zero temp? i have always wanna ask that

To go sub-zero takes a good bit of modding.
You pretty much need to dismantle the old a/c unit in question and put the evaporator in a cooler, and put the rad (or rads) in the cooler with it, and then fill with distilled water/antifreeze or whatever concoction Kal came up with worked well too..

Porting the a/c air directly through the rads or h/s helps, but I only got to zero with the machine off.

kikicoco1334 03-31-2010 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FACE411 (Post 33602)
To go sub-zero takes a good bit of modding.
You pretty much need to dismantle the old a/c unit in question and put the evaporator in a cooler, and put the rad (or rads) in the cooler with it, and then fill with distilled water/antifreeze or whatever concoction Kal came up with worked well too..

Porting the a/c air directly through the rads or h/s helps, but I only got to zero with the machine off.


i see what is the rad?

and then fill with distilled water/antifreeze or whatever concoction Kal came up with worked well too..
got a kick outta that lol

ill keep your guys posted i monna go find my self a old ac now :D:D

FACE 03-31-2010 10:53 AM

Sorry... By rad I meant the radiator from your loop. :Hi:

Neuromancer 03-31-2010 11:12 AM

Wish I had my thermal probe earlier. Coretemp was only reading 0C on my loop this winter jumping all the way up to 1C under load :)

ReverendMaynard 03-31-2010 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ocgmj (Post 33464)
If your having fun than it's worth it. :thumbsup:

this is correct.

kikicoco1334 03-31-2010 12:37 PM

how should i going by recycle the CFCs or the water in the cooling system?
i'm sure i cant just let it go down the sink =)

Kal-EL 03-31-2010 01:25 PM

Gutterz Chiller Ver. 2

kikicoco1334 03-31-2010 02:50 PM

thank you kal

btw
who was Lois' son's dad?
:laughing:

kikicoco1334 04-04-2010 12:29 PM

so i am almost done with it...
and there is more prob now...

i took the system down just for cleaning and just make sure everything is working ok...
but after i put everything back to where everything was the pump starting to acting funny, it's getting louder and louder so i was like WTF and went in BIOS and looked at the temp and it was like 75 and still going up...
so i looked at the clear tube water is not even moving at all!
tried everything i can think of, not working... now i am just thinking about getting a cheep working water pump just get by the summer day that's coming up..

this is what i found on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=370286323509
it's made by thermaltake
just wanna know what do you guys think?
it's only $20 so i am not really sure how are they?

Neuromancer 04-04-2010 02:20 PM

I wouldnt do that (plus its a 1/4 inch pump)

look for a cheap used 355 to tide you over.

$46 shipped 0 bids for a 655 here

Here is a 355 with low bids on it too

there are of course other alternatives as well

I would remove the top of you pump though and make sure hte impeller is not blocked or clogged.

kikicoco1334 04-04-2010 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neuromancer (Post 34097)
I wouldnt do that (plus its a 1/4 inch pump)

look for a cheap used 355 to tide you over.

$46 shipped 0 bids for a 655 here

Here is a 355 with low bids on it too

there are of course other alternatives as well

I would remove the top of you pump though and make sure hte impeller is not blocked or clogged.

thanks bro :)
i just added them to my list

quick question i saw some Peltier for sale on ebay what do they do?
are they like the thermal electric pads? can it be used on water coolers?

Neuromancer 04-04-2010 07:15 PM

Yeah, you pretty much have to use water with them.

Its basically transfers heat via electricity from one side (the cold plate) to the other (hot side)

You place it on your CPU cold plate down, then drop the waterblock on it. plug it in.. and go.

But they use a lot of enegry. Generally not regarded as anything special. Was a simple way to subambient temps back in the day though.

kikicoco1334 04-05-2010 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neuromancer (Post 34123)
Yeah, you pretty much have to use water with them.

Its basically transfers heat via electricity from one side (the cold plate) to the other (hot side)

You place it on your CPU cold plate down, then drop the waterblock on it. plug it in.. and go.

But they use a lot of enegry. Generally not regarded as anything special. Was a simple way to subambient temps back in the day though.


i was watching some video on youtube about it, it seems really nice
this guy got his down to somewhere around 15F :shock:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fYUVsydMmA

-------------HEATSINK--------------
========PELTIER========
----------------CPU------------------

should i just hook up the PELTIER pad's power line to like a molex or something?
molex is flat out 12V right?

Neuromancer 04-05-2010 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kikicoco1334 (Post 34159)
i was watching some video on youtube about it, it seems really nice
this guy got his down to somewhere around 15F :shock:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fYUVsydMmA

-------------HEATSINK--------------
========PELTIER========
----------------CPU------------------

should i just hook up the PELTIER pad's power line to like a molex or something?
molex is flat out 12V right?

The yellow wire is 12v yeah the red is 5 volt (and on sata the 5th wire, orange, is 3.3v)

As for how to hook it up... it depends on the wattage and voltage pelt you are looking at getting

Gutterz 04-05-2010 08:29 AM

Just hack up an air conditioner just about the easiest way to go sub zero.

HITandRUN 04-05-2010 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neuromancer (Post 34180)
it depends on the wattage and voltage pelt you are looking at getting


This is important. If you have a decent Pelti you wont be able to run this thing off your PC PSU. You will need a dedicated PSU for it.

kikicoco1334 04-05-2010 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HITandRUN (Post 34191)
This is important. If you have a decent Pelti you wont be able to run this thing off your PC PSU. You will need a dedicated PSU for it.

:shock::shock::shock::ohcrap::shock::shock::shock: :eek::eek:



what do you guys think this deal?
http://cgi.ebay.com/DANGER-DEN-754-9...#ht_1088wt_939

and for the peltis
http://shop.ebay.com/thermalenterpri...&_trksid=p3686

this is why i love ebay lol

kikicoco1334 04-05-2010 02:51 PM

and i am thinking about the ones that's like same size as the top of the LGA1366 or maybe a little bigger like 4.2cm x 4.2cm is i did a little math it's about 130~160W

Neuromancer 04-05-2010 02:59 PM

Well first of all... the 754-AM2 watercooling kit... I know the H50 is popular... but my first loops was a single 120MM BIX rad, 355 and a tline. It was no better than high end air for cooling a clawhammer processor when OCed.

Granted it was my first loop so I am sure a good reason for that was user error. I made a few mistakes, the only one I did not fix before selling the loops was cleaning hte block and rad with a vinegar bath (did not know about that back then)

However it is a start if you are only cooling CPU

As for the pelts...

400W is excessive for a Q6600. Might be good for a 980X though. Of course.. I think 50mm might even be larger than 1366. It is about 40-45% larger than a socket 775.

Cant find info on 1366 die size.. 775 is 37.5mm and 1366 is 20-30% larger. Still not 50mm if my math is not off.

Also a single fan waterloop is not going to be enough to cool a 200+ watt pelt.

A peltier is not a REPLACEMENT for a good watercooling loop. It is an addition to an overdesigned one!


I dont want to tell you NOT to go pelt.

But don't :)

For the money the good loop and pelt will cost (let alone operating cost) pick up even one of the koolance v1 pots (yeah its really a dice pot... but hey.. its cheap!) and a couple hundred liters of LN2 :)

EDIT: You posted before I finished typing :p You looking to cool your 920? whole nother ball game. To reduce a 4.5GHz 920 to ambient temps I think you will need approximately 150W-180W of pelt. Maybe more... no more than 200 i think though. A well designed 120.2 waterloop would be efficient enough for that. For subambient though... you really will want a 3 fan rad minimum.

Gutterz 04-05-2010 03:13 PM

go to a garage sale an buy a window A/C unit or check Craigslist. Ive gotten mine for under $40.
You can be sub zero for less than a good loop. A/C, Pump, Block, Hose an cooler, hose insulation, denatured alchohol is all u will need.

kikicoco1334 04-05-2010 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neuromancer (Post 34239)
Well first of all... the 754-AM2 watercooling kit... I know the H50 is popular... but my first loops was a single 120MM BIX rad, 355 and a tline. It was no better than high end air for cooling a clawhammer processor when OCed.

Granted it was my first loop so I am sure a good reason for that was user error. I made a few mistakes, the only one I did not fix before selling the loops was cleaning hte block and rad with a vinegar bath (did not know about that back then)

However it is a start if you are only cooling CPU

As for the pelts...

400W is excessive for a Q6600. Might be good for a 980X though. Of course.. I think 50mm might even be larger than 1366. It is about 40-45% larger than a socket 775.

Cant find info on 1366 die size.. 775 is 37.5mm and 1366 is 20-30% larger. Still not 50mm if my math is not off.

Also a single fan waterloop is not going to be enough to cool a 200+ watt pelt.

A peltier is not a REPLACEMENT for a good watercooling loop. It is an addition to an overdesigned one!


I dont want to tell you NOT to go pelt.

But don't :)

For the money the good loop and pelt will cost (let alone operating cost) pick up even one of the koolance v1 pots (yeah its really a dice pot... but hey.. its cheap!) and a couple hundred liters of LN2 :)

EDIT: You posted before I finished typing :p You looking to cool your 920? whole nother ball game. To reduce a 4.5GHz 920 to ambient temps I think you will need approximately 150W-180W of pelt. Maybe more... no more than 200 i think though. A well designed 120.2 waterloop would be efficient enough for that. For subambient though... you really will want a 3 fan rad minimum.

thank you so much for going so deep with my question:Hi:
my Q6600 is just gonna be a testing toy for me, it's really for me play around and learn
(BTW. play around is really not play around, it's more like i am doing lots of overclocking on it, and/but if something go wrong oh well too bad it's not gonna be a HUGE HUGE deal unlike my LGA1366 chips) :thumbsup:
i been thinking about buying a new chip to replace both my 920s for a LGA 775 the IHS is much smaller than the LGA 1366 so i am thinking about just make the water block or pot based on the LGA 1366 chip size, so when comes to smaller chip what ever is extra is extra :) unless intel is coming out with a new LGA (i saw that on the web today:shock:)
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the long side is 3.45~3.5cm, short side is 3.25~3.3cm
only if i am going to pelt, here is my set up for the new Dr. Jackass
-Intel Q6600 D0 w/ no mod [but thinking about it if it really helps oc (just the pin mod)]
-EVGA 780i FTW w/ no mod
-PNY GTX 260 w/ no mod [YET:D]
-Antec EarthWatts 650W [JUST GOT IT]
-WD 320GB BlackBox 2.5 size
-CoolerMaster Aquagate DuoViva Kit + ThermalTake 3.25in Tank (replacing pump asap and adding a 3x120mm rad on to it)

do you think is it gonna be enough?
this LGA775 setup is my ONLY LGA775 test station...

and here are the two i been looking at getting if i do
168W
http://cgi.ebay.com/USA-QUALITY-168W...item41480c2fd5
138W
http://cgi.ebay.com/138W-Peltier-The...item4836096b44

they are like less than $15, more or less, i just wanna get one or two just to play around with it :D
if is such bad idea i am not even gonna stick that in my computer @ all!

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for the Pots...
i have been watching this pot from day one...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT
and this too
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

i know the first one is more for DICE and second one is more for LN2 but F1EE is really where REAL OCER wanna oc with LN2 going to get, i looked on the F1EE's offical site the price is about 200 something vs you know the first one is about 110 and second one is 170, and if i am gonna be going with the more $$$ one shouldn't i be going to the F1EE [i think]
1. is F1EE that much better than the Koolance Pot V2? proformance based
2. because Koolance is more for DICE what about F1EE? a good friend of my is supporting me with DICE for FREE lol (he is a Professor @ Vanderbilt University :D) so i can get DICE just as easy as LN2 now lol
3. like you said a couple hundred liters of LN2 and a Koolance V1 Pot = :)ness, how much of diff is that gonna make? it is passable for me, i just got to do it at a Vanderbilt's lab but it can happen, but F1EE VS Koolance V1 porformance HUGE or just huge?
4. comes to DICE Koolance V1 is the way to go, but it sux at LN2 and F1EE is really good at LN2 how about DICE? like Koolance V1 VS F1EE on DICE?:Dizzy:

sorry dump so much question on you guys all the time
thank you





Quote:

Originally Posted by Gutterz (Post 34243)
go to a garage sale an buy a window A/C unit or check Craigslist. Ive gotten mine for under $40.
You can be sub zero for less than a good loop. A/C, Pump, Block, Hose an cooler, hose insulation, denatured alchohol is all u will need.

Cragislist and grage sale and looking for a windows AC got it!

Kal-EL 04-05-2010 11:26 PM

Garage sale A/C turned chiller, will hold greater loads..................

kikicoco1334 04-06-2010 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kal-EL (Post 34305)
Garage sale A/C turned chiller, will hold greater loads..................

got it boss!
i have been looking around now :)




been thinking and thinking about the pot, i think i want to do DICE AND LN2 both,
Koolance V1 or Koolance V2 or F1EE?
or should i get one of the Koolance AND F1EE for LN2?
:Dizzy::Dizzy:

Kal-EL 04-06-2010 04:29 PM

Which pot you go with will be determinant on your budget homie. A good long term investment is an F1 pot imo as it does well in both DICE and Ln2 benching.

kikicoco1334 04-06-2010 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kal-EL (Post 34425)
Which pot you go with will be determinant on your budget homie. A good long term investment is an F1 pot imo as it does well in both DICE and Ln2 benching.

SWEET dude! i'm kal's homie!

F1 it is then!
i should be getting my bonus soon:laughing: hope is gonna be enough for a new one
i always wanna know...
why is the F1's packaging looks so bad!
http://kingpincooling.com/assets/Upl...-with-tube.jpg:D:D

Kal-EL 04-06-2010 09:07 PM

Because it's filled with bad bad bad intentions? :blush:

kikicoco1334 04-07-2010 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kal-EL (Post 34470)
Because it's filled with bad bad bad intentions? :blush:

hahaha:laughing::laughing:

Kal-EL 04-07-2010 07:50 PM

Kool botbanner Kiki ;)

kikicoco1334 04-08-2010 10:25 AM

i am so sick of my water set up right now!
water pump went out, and Neuromancer told me try clean it for a little bit see if that helps, yeah worked after i put in some 10W-30 for like 1hr then it's acting up again, i monna just ditch this block/pump and get a legit pump and get over with it

ocgmj 04-08-2010 10:48 AM

Get a nice mag pump. LINK
Witch is pretty good with the pumps so you may want to ask him which one to go with.

Neuromancer 04-08-2010 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kikicoco1334 (Post 34782)
i am so sick of my water set up right now!
water pump went out, and Neuromancer told me try clean it for a little bit see if that helps, yeah worked after i put in some 10W-30 for like 1hr then it's acting up again, i monna just ditch this block/pump and get a legit pump and get over with it

Never use oil on plastic parts, you would need a silicone based grease most likely.


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