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ny_driver 12-12-2010 03:51 PM

going 939 crazy here.........
 
After bricking the bios on my Ultra-D I have been doing some shopping. I just bought an SLI-DR Expert with everything...it looks brand new. I bought an Ultra-D in the same condition last night, but for very cheap. I have an SLI-DR sitting at the PO right now which was also pretty cheap and shipped ultra fast.

:blush:I've also managed to somehow buy 3 other Ultra-Ds. I'll sell 2 of them to make back the money spent on the Expert.

Last night I found 4 x 256MB Geil PC4000 cas2 for $1.25 at the bay. They are very fast...handpicked samsung TCCD/ brainpower pcb.

My Opteron 154 which I hope is a top notch chip, will get here tomorrow.:)

Working on some other good stuff too. :cool3:

I figure with the 3 best overclocking 939 motherboards, a few good chips, a handful of pointers, and some determination, I should be able to break some records.

I'm not crazy, am I?:laughing: EDIT: maybe I should have said THIS doesn't make me crazy, does it?

Kal-EL 12-13-2010 03:16 AM

Um, we don't use the "crazy" word, we'll just say you're "Certified" :P

Mr.Scott 12-13-2010 04:39 AM

You'll find that the Expert board has very limited modded bios choices and actually performs worse (quirkier) than a regular Ultra D. I'd sell that one for a premium. If you want better than the Ultra D you need to find a Venus board.
Good luck with your 939 adventures. I'm actually working 939's right now for the Dec. challange. Between myself and Opty, we're keeping CP at #1 for now in said challange. I hope to maintain that.

ny_driver 12-13-2010 05:05 AM

Thanks for the advice :thumbsup:.

Hopefully between myself, my new Opty that just got dropped off, the FX-55, and the SLI-DR with the Gold VX I can have some very nice results by the end of the day.

Temperatures are dropping.....time to have some fun.

Hondacity 12-13-2010 05:42 AM

is ny_driver from classicplatforms ..and just joined us for spying?

LOL i joke

ny_driver 12-13-2010 06:12 AM

I'm definitely down with classic platforms:).........but I'm OCA all the way, you guys took me in off the streets of cyberspace and make me feel right at home. I now have a purpose in life again. ;)

ny_driver 12-13-2010 07:13 AM

UPDATE#1: I'm pleased to announce that the SLI-DR works fine, and the FX-55 too. Time to go set that shit up outside where it's COLD. :cool3:

Kal-EL 12-13-2010 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ny_driver (Post 65415)
I'm definitely down with classic platforms:).........but I'm OCA all the way, you guys took me in off the streets of cyberspace and make me feel right at home. I now have a purpose in life again. ;)

:hug:

ny_driver 12-13-2010 08:52 AM

UPDATE#2: the new memory is no good...............OCZ Gold VX pc4000 2 x 512MB 2-2-2-8@3.3v garbage. :thumbdown:

Bones 12-13-2010 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Scott (Post 65406)
You'll find that the Expert board has very limited modded bios choices and actually performs worse (quirkier) than a regular Ultra D. I'd sell that one for a premium. If you want better than the Ultra D you need to find a Venus board.
Good luck with your 939 adventures. I'm actually working 939's right now for the Dec. challange. Between myself and Opty, we're keeping CP at #1 for now in said challange. I hope to maintain that.

I'll be helping out as well in my own way. :blush:
Maybe I'll do alright but with the luck I've been having lately, I'm not assuming anything yet.

Sorry to hear the new RAM is crap NY but that's how it goes sometimes.
As long as it's not throwing errors, it's still good for something but if you really don't want it, I need a few spare sticks for everyday (Non-OC'ing) useage.

Mr.Scott 12-13-2010 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ny_driver (Post 65421)
UPDATE#2: the new memory is no good...............OCZ Gold VX pc4000 2 x 512MB 2-2-2-8@3.3v garbage. :thumbdown:

What do you want for it?:)

ny_driver 12-13-2010 11:09 AM

It's trash....tried it on another system and all I got was the bad memory beep out of each and both sticks. I only was able to run memtest on them on the SLI-DR because it's built into the BIOS.

I'll test further later because I'd really like to get them to work, but if I can't crank them up then what's the point? I'll get a refund I think.....and I'm sure they are lifetime guaranteed, but they wouldn't have any worthwhile replacements.

Maybe at least 2 of the 4 x 256MB Geil pc4000 I got for $1.25 will be good.

EDIT: not sure Mr.Scott......it's possible that they will work after freezing.

Bones 12-13-2010 11:13 AM

Yes, you can try that to see how it goes.

Good luck and at least you know someone out there will give 'em a good home if you decide to be rid of them for whatever reason - I know I could use them for something (Maybe).

ny_driver 12-13-2010 11:38 AM

I sure picked a cold night to set up on the back porch, but should have some pretty good results unless the chips are duds. I have a sweet spot outside next to fireplace, but it's snowing a little. Maybe it'll be clear tomorrow.

I think I'm going to get a waterblock for my chipset so I can chill it down to ambient like my GPU......I guess I could insulate that area also and freeze the chipset, I just need a way to chill the high voltage memory I bought that doesn't work. The plan is ever changing.

Jor-El 12-14-2010 06:20 AM

I tried to power the DFI Nf4 Sli I gt from Cecil today and no luck all I get is lit 4 red leds and fans at full speed no post.

You know what that is?

Sorry for high jacking your thread buddy.

ny_driver 12-14-2010 07:36 AM

I personally don't know, haven't encountered that problem yet. Have you looked in the manual at the post led codes. I'll look into a little later today.

ocgmj 12-14-2010 08:06 AM

Press down on the BIOS chip.

ny_driver 12-14-2010 08:22 AM

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This picture belongs in this thread also. Going to be many more pictures in the near future. I have 4 more boards coming in shipments from all over the country. I'm going to keep the Expert, the SLI-DR, and 1 Ultra-D.....plus my dead one for parts. I'll have 2 Ultra-Ds for sale if they both work.

Mr.Scott 12-14-2010 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Jor-El (Post 65477)
I tried to power the DFI Nf4 Sli I gt from Cecil today and no luck all I get is lit 4 red leds and fans at full speed no post.

You know what that is?

Sorry for high jacking your thread buddy.

That's the 4 LED's of death. You can try a new bios chip, sometimes it works, most of the time it means the board is shot.
I forgot, make sure the ram is in the orange slots.

ny_driver 12-14-2010 09:13 AM

btw...that new BIOS chip I got didn't fix the Ultra.

EDIT: nice new Ultra will be here tomorrow.

ny_driver 12-14-2010 05:38 PM

Mr.Scott can you diagnose this problem please?
Board had been working great all day in the garage. I finally brought it inside and put the freezer on the cpu tonight and it was working excellent, until I increased the vcore to 123%, which should have been ~1.8v ......... when I hit save and went to boot up it started to and just quit. Now when I hit the power button the 4 LEDs light up and the board powers on momentarily, and then shuts back down.
I tried reset cmos and take battery out/ unplug for a few. Perhaps it was just coincidence when it decided to quit....maybe the board is CB.

Any ideas? Thanks again.

EDIT: Shit, wow,....I tried another PSU and the symptoms changed to the 4 LEDS of death that you mentioned earlier. Could I use the bios chip from an Ultra-D in it?

Mr.Scott 12-15-2010 04:46 AM

That board is shot, and yes, you can use the bios chip in the other board, but you need to flash it to the right bios.

ny_driver 12-15-2010 05:17 AM

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That board is shot, and yes, you can use the bios chip in the other board, but you need to flash it to the right bios.

Thank you for the reply.
Did you mean I need to pre-flash it to the right BIOS, or it will work but need flashing?

The board is dead anyways and that was the only SLI-DR I had.....so it doesn't really matter atm, but just curious.

More boards for me to kill just came today. :thumbsup:

ny_driver 12-15-2010 10:33 AM

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Well I got 3 Ultra-Ds today and the 2 that I thought might not work are working fine, although 1 is missing the power button and the chipset fan is dead on the other. I should be able to maybe replace the button with one from another board.

Plus take a look at the one I got for $40 shipped priority that's barely even been out of the box. No dust or any signs of wear. Nothing has been opened and the box is perfect. I'm going to leave it right in the box until it's needed. :cool3:

Mr.Scott 12-15-2010 10:53 AM

The boards use the same bios unless it's an Expert or Venus board, those are different. All those boards use the same bios chip.

ny_driver 12-15-2010 11:03 AM

Thanks for the info. I was a little leery because the number on the bottom line of the BIOS chips are all different. So SLI and Ultra are interchangeable chips...good.

I tried the new Ultra chip in the SLI-DR last night and it made no difference.

I want to find a Venus board.

ny_driver 12-18-2010 07:05 AM

Uggghhh...I can't any of my cas2 memory to run at cas2 on the Expert....all I get is BSOD or it hangs. Normally my pc3200 is good @ 250MHz 2.5-3-2-5, but it won't even boot @ 225Mhz on the Expert. I better double check that memory on another board, but I know it's good. What could it be:blink:?

UPDATE: I put them in the Orange slots and it booted up cas2.....I can't seem to d/l the manual. Yup, just gotta put them in the Orange slots. POS.:blush:

ny_driver 12-18-2010 05:40 PM

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OK things are going better with the Expert now. :) I put it on the chiller. I have the art of kneaded eraser figured out pretty well now so the board and socket are always perfectly moisture free when I remove the eraser. Even after several days of playing. :thumbsup: After 3 days I noticed moisture on the back side of the board/socket....it's tough to get air in there so I covered the back with Dragon Skin.

Then I realized these old GPU blocks I have are about the same size as the chipset area........so I made a chipset block. :cool3: It works great, just as good as one I could have bought for $30-40.

Tomorrow I'm going to put the chipset before the GPU because it gets hot....I think I saw 35C with 1.96v :taunt:

EDIT: it's held in place with 9-ply nylon waxed lacing cord and it's on there nice and snug.

Hondacity 12-18-2010 07:00 PM

that looks purdy :D

ny_driver 12-19-2010 04:37 AM

Put the chipset first and now she's idling @ 25C w/ stock voltage. I bet it doesn't break 30C with 1.96v now.:shock: .............and the GPU is still too cold @ 14C right now I better crank some voltages..

Neuromancer 12-19-2010 06:28 AM

IIRC the DFI boards were the only ones cable of running even tighter than CAS2. (1, 1.5)

Don't know why the board would matter since it is an IMC... but that is what I recall.

ny_driver 12-19-2010 11:10 AM

I went to get some coffee(10 minutes) and when I got back the screen was black and the system was still running. :blink:

I couldn't get it to POST again. Couldn't get anything(no LEDS), so I reset cmos, removed battery, unplugged and held button in awhile to drain.........and when I tried again I got the 4LEDS. Now I get either the 4LEDS and cant even power off, or nothing at all. Mostly nothing at all, but once in awhile it powers.

I wonder what happened?

Mr.Scott 12-19-2010 02:55 PM

Dude, you've killed more hardware in a week, than I have in the last 5 years.:shock:

Hondacity 12-19-2010 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Scott (Post 65873)
Dude, you've killed more hardware in a week, than I have in the last 5 years.:shock:

our friends here are still learning..what is safe and what kills ...and hopefully they catch up of whats called...degradation ..lol

ny_driver 12-19-2010 03:25 PM

I can see that maybe I killed the chip, although I don't see why 1.8v ended it's life so suddenly. And this board seemed to just die, it was weird. (that Ultra was more than a week ago;)) Anyways I've tried swapping out each and every component so must be this one is dead....the others were a dead cpu yet undiscovered.

I thought degradation was like an over time kinda thing, not so much all of a sudden?

Hondacity 12-19-2010 04:54 PM

degradation ...can be quick or slow...and eventually kill a cpu.

ny_driver 12-20-2010 03:48 AM

:blink:WOW....something new each day to look forward to playing with these old motherboards. This morning I find that I get absolutely no display from my 4890, so I install the other 4890 and I get display, but it won't get past the LanParty screen. Won't boot even at "optimized defaults".

Again it was working just perfect last night, and there have been no leaks or anything. I'm starting to think there is a little computer Gremlin playing on my system in the night.

EDIT: I caught the Gremlin his name is ny_driver. I left the External/usb drive plugged in last night so it wouldn't boot, which I realized only as I was unplugging everything for removal. And I got the 4890 wetter than I thought. I didn't think any coolant snuck down behind the block yesterday, but I was wrong and it took until this morning for it to seep in where it was a problem. Maybe it'll work when it's dry.

ny_driver 12-20-2010 10:56 AM

Opty152 installed and frozen. Life is good. :thumbsup: It seems to go just as far on stock volts as the 154 did which seems like a very good sign to me.

Still drying the 4890.

ny_driver 01-26-2011 06:07 PM

.........so anyways I got 3650Mhz out of the(2.6GHz)152s, but I now think I can take them further. I just tested a (2GHz)146 and got it to 3701MHz so far just using the chiller. That's #5 and only 112MHz off the WR........I should try my luck with some DICE soon.

Just thought I'd let you know I'm still going 939 crazy, and I finally broke 100 boints :taunt:

EDIT: and I fixed that motherboard from 2 posts ago yesterday. Somehow 2 traces got cut next to the cpu socket. Fortunately they were not right next to each other and I easily patched them up with a circuit writer pen. Good as new. :cool3:

EDIT: only 97MHz off now....gotta get some DICE. Still one more chip to test though. :clapping:

Hondacity 01-26-2011 07:20 PM

wow 100pts and fixing boards :D

good work bro...lovin the gold trophies :D


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