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Kal-EL 06-13-2009 12:51 PM

Project "S"uper Chiller
 
Another chiller project for good ole Soups :D

This time its not 100% "Home Brew" but its exciting nonetheless :trophy:


Thx to Buckeye for a very smooth purchase and a superb packaging of this unfinished chiller. It arrived in flawless fashion and proves that Single Stages and such can be shipped if packed properly.

Now, its up to me to figure out the finer details and get this beauty up to snuff on operation, decent temps and functionality. I can't wait to get this thing revving up and going :D I have high expectations for this chiller's duties as either a 24/7 cooler, a down and dirty GPU killer or simply a water chiller for my beer cooler :ash1:

And here's the money shot:

http://www.overclockaholics.com/Kal/...r/100_2532.JPG

DrNip 06-13-2009 12:58 PM

Nice! I am looking forward to when I can get a phase change. Hopefully it will be a cascade.

punx223 06-13-2009 12:59 PM

dude taht thing is 500w at -10C IIRC i cant wait to see what its gonna do for you!!!

Jeffro64 06-13-2009 12:59 PM

SWEET! I gotta find one of those.... but then i'd have to figure out how to use it LOL!

hellcamino 06-13-2009 01:16 PM

That looks really good Supes, do you know what was used for the actual heat exchanger?

Kal-EL 06-13-2009 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by hellcamino (Post 4665)
That looks really good Supes, do you know what was used for the actual heat exchanger?

Actually, no Frank I don't. I know that Buckeye had it started by Jin a while back during all that drama that was going on with him. Buckeye said he never fired it up not even once after getting it from Jin. There is a CPEV for adjusting temps on it on the far left of the pic.

Maybe Punx has run it already as he knows the wattage load and the temps it runs on.

hellcamino 06-13-2009 01:45 PM

What does it actually need at this point?

Kal-EL 06-13-2009 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by hellcamino (Post 4672)
What does it actually need at this point?

Just a nicely rigged up on/off switch, 12v psu for the condensor fan, piping and testing.

Chuchnit 06-13-2009 02:50 PM

Looks good buddy. Now you just need one of those things with two of those big things. :D What do they call those? Oh ya, compressors and cascades :D Get-R-Done

Buckeye 06-13-2009 04:02 PM

Good Job Kal, it's looking good :)

Yeah from what Jin said it was made to hold 500watts @ -10c.
I think it will go colder but you will find out I am sure :)

I never got it going mainly because I have no Water Cooling equipment. The plan at the time was to use it in the cooling tower to cool GPUs, but with 2 Phases running and condensation issues I never got it up and running.

I sent Kal pictures of how I packed it, LOL it was packed pretty tight :)

I was very nervous about shipping that thing as I have heard so many stories of units getting damaged in shipping.

When I went to the post office to ship it I did 6-7 day. So 9 days come and go and I was going oh nooo. So I called USPS and spoke with a operator and he goes... 6-7 day is only in the US, outside the country it could take 3-4 weeks !
I went OMG I don't feel good about this, Kal is gona be thinking good grief am I getting scammed here.

But then the next day MSN lights up from Kal going ... guess what just came. I went thank goodness, now I can sleep HAHAHA

Have fun Kal and post pic's please :)

Kal-EL 06-13-2009 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Buckeye (Post 4693)
Good Job Kal, it's looking good :)

Yeah from what Jin said it was made to hold 500watts @ -10c.
I think it will go colder but you will find out I am sure :)

I never got it going mainly because I have no Water Cooling equipment. The plan at the time was to use it in the cooling tower to cool GPUs, but with 2 Phases running and condensation issues I never got it up and running.

I sent Kal pictures of how I packed it, LOL it was packed pretty tight :)

I was very nervous about shipping that thing as I have heard so many stories of units getting damaged in shipping.

When I went to the post office to ship it I did 6-7 day. So 9 days come and go and I was going oh nooo. So I called USPS and spoke with a operator and he goes... 6-7 day is only in the US, outside the country it could take 3-4 weeks !
I went OMG I don't feel good about this, Kal is gona be thinking good grief am I getting scammed here.

But then the next day MSN lights up from Kal going ... guess what just came. I went thank goodness, now I can sleep HAHAHA

Have fun Kal and post pic's please :)

That outsid the U.S. stuff always bites my butt. Nothing towards you Buckeye but for some reason people think Hawaii is a foreign country :argh: Anybody remember Pearl Harbor? Or Tiny Bubbles? Tell that USPS guy next time he's in Hawaii....."Watch out Haole!!" :rofl

Buckeye 06-14-2009 03:17 AM

I think what he ment was outsire of US mainland things go by boat and take longer.

Did you take any pictures of all those styro peanuts all over your place LOLOL

Buckeye 06-14-2009 05:30 AM

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Whn I had this unit I thought hard about how to set it up. Now I know Kal is very good with chillers so I know he can figure out how to set this baby up ;)

One thread I looked at a lot was this one, about Liquid Frostbyte on XS.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=37379

I think that this maybe the way to go.

Another option that I was told was to just use a regular water cooling setup but with a bigger rez and no Rads. Insulate up as you feel it should be.

When I contracted Jin about this unit I told him it was going to be for GPUs on my main rig. So in an after thought the temps might not get really low but it should be able to hold a good hot load at maybe -10c on the GPU/NB and use a normal large rez. Remember the CPEV will alow you to adjust the coolent temps some what.

The power of this unit might just work out for a setup like that.

Jin built this to hold 500watts at -10c so it might not be tuned for max cold, but rather max load. That might turn out to be a good thing also, so it's doesn't freeze up the HX if flow is to slow.

It is the very same compressor and condenser that is used in the SS Phase unit he built for me.

For a benching setup my thoughts were to turn the CPEV to max cold and use a large tank rez sitting on the floor to hold max temps longer. I would think you would need 2 pumps for that, one for the chiller/rez and the other from rez/GPU's.

I have seen several different mix's of coolent used for these setups. I was trying to find that info but for some reason my brain is dead today and I cannot find that info. I will keep looking and post back what I find.

Kal has used chillers before so I think he can do a great job on getting this setup :)

Gunslinger 06-14-2009 06:19 AM

50/50 mix of methanol and water will work great. You will need to be careful though at your coolant will be flammable.

Kal-EL 06-14-2009 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Gunslinger (Post 4736)
50/50 mix of methanol and water will work great. You will need to be careful though at your coolant will be flammable.

Hehe, poof !:flaminmad: Thx buckeye, gs.

NoL 07-03-2009 10:07 AM

The heat exchanger is a flat plate heat exchanger. Make sure you pump UP and through it, not down and out. That will create counter current flow and better heat exchange.

punx223 07-03-2009 10:13 AM

wow dude looks awesome!!!! cant wait to see it run

Kal-EL 07-03-2009 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by NoL (Post 8123)
The heat exchanger is a flat plate heat exchanger. Make sure you pump UP and through it, not down and out. That will create counter current flow and better heat exchange.

Thx NoL, I'll remember that when i get back into this segment of my overclocking repitua, tied down right now :D

HITandRUN 07-03-2009 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Kal-EL (Post 4679)
Just a nicely rigged up on/off switch, 12v psu for the condensor fan, piping and testing.

Nice unit you have there and it looks like you dont need too much to get it going. :thumbsup::)

youngpro 07-12-2009 11:53 PM

sweet looking unit... i wish i didnt sell my single stage, maybe get another made towards the end of the year... -10 is perfect for testing everything i7 before going ln2

MaadDaawg 09-10-2009 03:47 PM

Sure is purty Supes :)

Chicken Patty 09-10-2009 06:30 PM

good going bro, love the money shot :). Can't wait till you put it to the test :D

ruffus 11-04-2009 07:31 PM

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well looks like a solid system i am hoping the one i just made for a contest at hardwarecanucks works qas good as say this one. as well when i got time i will make a thread of all the systems i have built then start another thread as i do have a cascade i am starting as well as another 2 single stages one out of a danfoss nfllfx and the other out of a 9000/btu rotory. and Kal thanks for the invite been looking around and there is lots of nice work done here

Kal-EL 11-04-2009 11:02 PM

Welcome to the forums ruffus, glad you made it over :welcome:

ruffus 11-05-2009 12:27 AM

not a problem thank for the invite

Chuchnit 11-05-2009 01:57 AM

Welcome to the forums ruffus!! I have followed a little of your work. That cascade you just sold was a very clean looking build.

Kal-EL 04-05-2011 01:02 AM

2 years later, lolololol, external temp probe reads 3c, still playing with it ;)

OC Maximus 04-05-2011 06:24 AM

Nice start Mang :thumbsup:

Kal-EL 04-05-2011 06:29 AM

Gonna have to insulate the lines when running this sub-ambient loop, she really loves to condensate. THis probably great stuff for a 24/7 moderate to highly overclocked daily driver.

Witchdoctor 04-05-2011 06:32 AM

or a Sandy bridge domination craft

kikicoco1334 04-05-2011 02:10 PM

that's awesome dude! i am having a friend of my building a single or maybe a double for me

Kal-EL 04-05-2011 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Kal-EL (Post 75246)
2 years later, lolololol, external temp probe reads 3c, still playing with it ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by kikicoco1334 (Post 75324)
that's awesome dude! i am having a friend of my building a single or maybe a double for me

I think it'll serve me well :)

Kal-EL 04-07-2011 09:24 PM

Turning the TXV/TEV valve counterclockwise brings frost onto the valve.

Kal-EL 04-09-2011 06:43 AM

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Time to chillout :)
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Splave 04-09-2011 07:02 AM

oOOOoo I like it!

Kal-EL 04-09-2011 08:38 AM

OH man, I hate chiller inefficiency :ohcrap:

Block has too little mass and water as a medium is crap near 0c. Forgot how lovely chillers can be, lol. :thumbdown:

Splave 04-09-2011 09:26 AM

kal how big is your coolant res? I assume its sitting on the floor out of the pic

Kal-EL 04-09-2011 10:04 AM

its the evap on the left side, black insulated. Coolant temps are steady cold. Temps under the block are where its hot.

Splave 04-09-2011 10:48 AM

do you have an old F1 sitting around? you could caulk in some ports on the top and have epic mass lol?

Kal-EL 04-09-2011 11:43 AM

The caulk doesnt fit inside the F1 :kneelsuckers:


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