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Red face FIXED |Cascade won't start 2nd stage|

It was working fine all day when I was setting up the 920 and the 980x but after a high load bench I heard a click noise and then I noticed that the 2nd stage was loosing temps fast. So I shut the computer and the Cascade off and let it sit for a day... Today I turned it on as usual but the Second Stage is stuck... It doesn't turn on anymore, just hangs there with first Stage on -41c and nothing happens. When I press Hot Bypass valve I also don't hear it kicking in anymore...

I made this small video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=et9JI_X_3Rc



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My first guess would be the starter cap on the second stage has gone out. But I am not an expert on this stuff. Have you contected the builder ?
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My first guess would be the starter cap on the second stage has gone out. But I am not an expert on this stuff. Have you contected the builder ?
Thanks for the fast reply my friend. Is there any physical clues I could look for? I might open it up tomorrow to inspect.

Ruffus is the builder and I already Pm'd him over XS, but last time he logged in was 06/10/10..
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Thanks for the fast reply my friend. Is there any physical clues I could look for? I might open it up tomorrow to inspect.

Ruffus is the builder and I already Pm'd him over XS, but last time he logged in was 06/10/10..
No physical clues besides a burt cap or something leaking out of it. I woul dhave to relook up some your pics to see where they are located, usually right on teh comp itself, but I have seen others with them sitting off to the side.

Check all your wires and make sure non have come loose and they all make good contact.

On Kals when I shipped him my cascade there is a little black relay box that is strapped on one of the supports, one wire had come off during shipping and result was the second stage would not start. Reconnected it back up and away it went.
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Something similar happened to mine about two weeks ago. During a bench session the second stage temps started rising rapidly...I shut it down and tried again about thirty minutes later, but no dice. Two days later I fired it back up and it operated normally...have no clue what it was. I suspect in your case a stuck relay, you think?
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Fixed your video, just the info after the "=" sign in the youtube link goes between the [youtub3] tags "et9JI_X_3Rc"

Sure sounds like something overloaded, was the wall providing enough juice?
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Kal, yes I use the outlets outside the electrical box (bypassing the breakers).

Rick, I tried twice within the last 24 hours and still nothing.

Buck, I will open the unit tomorrow and inspect!
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sounds like possibly a relay may have failed. or the main cap that starts the compressor might have gone pop.
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I know mine had a little second stage breaker on it that would kick over if I tryed to start the second stage too early or too rapidly after I turned it off for a second? Maybe something like that was the click you heard
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sounds like possibly a relay may have failed. or the main cap that starts the compressor might have gone pop.
Hopefully is something I can fix myself like replacing a relay (just like in a car)?

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I know mine had a little second stage breaker on it that would kick over if I tryed to start the second stage too early or too rapidly after I turned it off for a second? Maybe something like that was the click you heard
Yes I so wish ruffus would reply fast so I can have an idea on what to look for when I open it! I'll try to look for a breaker too thanks mate!
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