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Old 06-27-2010
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Red face FIXED |Cascade won't start 2nd stage|

It was working fine all day when I was setting up the 920 and the 980x but after a high load bench I heard a click noise and then I noticed that the 2nd stage was loosing temps fast. So I shut the computer and the Cascade off and let it sit for a day... Today I turned it on as usual but the Second Stage is stuck... It doesn't turn on anymore, just hangs there with first Stage on -41c and nothing happens. When I press Hot Bypass valve I also don't hear it kicking in anymore...

I made this small video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=et9JI_X_3Rc



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My first guess would be the starter cap on the second stage has gone out. But I am not an expert on this stuff. Have you contected the builder ?
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My first guess would be the starter cap on the second stage has gone out. But I am not an expert on this stuff. Have you contected the builder ?
Thanks for the fast reply my friend. Is there any physical clues I could look for? I might open it up tomorrow to inspect.

Ruffus is the builder and I already Pm'd him over XS, but last time he logged in was 06/10/10..
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Thanks for the fast reply my friend. Is there any physical clues I could look for? I might open it up tomorrow to inspect.

Ruffus is the builder and I already Pm'd him over XS, but last time he logged in was 06/10/10..
No physical clues besides a burt cap or something leaking out of it. I woul dhave to relook up some your pics to see where they are located, usually right on teh comp itself, but I have seen others with them sitting off to the side.

Check all your wires and make sure non have come loose and they all make good contact.

On Kals when I shipped him my cascade there is a little black relay box that is strapped on one of the supports, one wire had come off during shipping and result was the second stage would not start. Reconnected it back up and away it went.
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Something similar happened to mine about two weeks ago. During a bench session the second stage temps started rising rapidly...I shut it down and tried again about thirty minutes later, but no dice. Two days later I fired it back up and it operated normally...have no clue what it was. I suspect in your case a stuck relay, you think?
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I woul dhave to relook up some your pics to see where they are located, usually right on teh comp itself, but I have seen others with them sitting off to the side.
Buck, can you see where it is from these:









Hopefully is there somewhere and I can repair it myself
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Thanks for the fast reply my friend. Is there any physical clues I could look for? I might open it up tomorrow to inspect.

Ruffus is the builder and I already Pm'd him over XS, but last time he logged in was 06/10/10..
Not to rain on your parade, but ruffus has been giving me the runaround for 7 months now. He wont respond to multiple emails, and for now I recommend everyone steer clear of him. He last emailed me a month ago (no communication of any kind since) saying the build is done and holding 300watts at -89. I asked for pics and now he has vanished :(

He is also building a unit for lowfat (a cascade) and lowfat a few days ago on XS posted that ruffus told him another 1-2 months after he has already waited 4. At least lowfat seems to be able to communicate with him, I get ignored.

Sent him a mail today that if I dont recieve a response and a unit soon im opening public threads on every forums in existence to let the world know whats up
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Not to rain on your parade, but ruffus has been giving me the runaround for 7 months now. He wont respond to multiple emails, and for now I recommend everyone steer clear of him. He last emailed me a month ago (no communication of any kind since) saying the build is done and holding 300watts at -89. I asked for pics and now he has vanished :(

He is also building a unit for lowfat (a cascade) and lowfat a few days ago on XS posted that ruffus told him another 1-2 months after he has already waited 4. At least lowfat seems to be able to communicate with him, I get ignored.

Sent him a mail today that if I dont recieve a response and a unit soon im opening public threads on every forums in existence to let the world know whats up
I'm sorry to hear that Karmakazi, that's not his usual agenda. Brad is a very responsible guy that always stands behind his work even when he doesn't need to.

He is very slow on reply's but he usually returns them. Hi's Cascades builds will take 6 months and between yours and lowfat probably a year to be done... I know that between his kid, wife and day job his Cascade / SS business is only a hobby, but his Cascades will outlast anything build by sdumper...

If I hear anything from him I'll ask him to reply you.
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Not to rain on your parade, but ruffus has been giving me the runaround for 7 months now. He wont respond to multiple emails, and for now I recommend everyone steer clear of him. He last emailed me a month ago (no communication of any kind since) saying the build is done and holding 300watts at -89. I asked for pics and now he has vanished :(

He is also building a unit for lowfat (a cascade) and lowfat a few days ago on XS posted that ruffus told him another 1-2 months after he has already waited 4. At least lowfat seems to be able to communicate with him, I get ignored.

Sent him a mail today that if I dont recieve a response and a unit soon im opening public threads on every forums in existence to let the world know whats up
That suck's man .... don't you have a phone number and address .... ?

Seems like finding a alaround good build these days is tough .... shame it has to be like this .... Hope you get it soon and it all works out .... if not I could not blame you for dragging his name through the mud .... very conservative ....

I would be compeled to jump on a plane and visit his home if you have already funded this project , I hope not ...

Best of luck

Great news Jor ..... back up and running = WIN
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Fixed your video, just the info after the "=" sign in the youtube link goes between the [youtub3] tags "et9JI_X_3Rc"

Sure sounds like something overloaded, was the wall providing enough juice?
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