[Chuchnit]

Originally Posted by dread77

Trying to put some sense to those Bot guys is a major waste of time. They never listen... It's their way or the highway... If you have a different oppinion than theirs, you are either gonna get ignored or mocked like a 5 year old child...
If they are "told" to go on with Rev.4, they will no matter what... So don't bother.
I think the team is pretty strong and will come up with all needed points.

Regarding those rumors Chuchnit mentioned... I was not in the team just a few hours ago, so I can tell you for sure that I never heard a bad comment regarding OCA.
it's just that, after the last revision, all top teams are pretty close in rankings, so nobody wants to lose his position by an underdog.
OCA is just 3,000 points away from AF, can you imagine what will happen if we go over them???

Couldn't agree with you more regarding hwbot staff attitude mate. Regarding OCA reputation, there is a reason not many people have a bad word to say about us. First, we don't cheat EVER. Second, we as a group generally get along with everyone and try to be as respectful as possible. There is actually only one or two people that try to run our name in the mud. The problem is that one of them has a lot of pull in the scene. We will overcome that garbage with our class and sportmanship. We just do the right thing and let the chips fall where they may.

Originally Posted by Kal-EL

If any version of Rev. 4 is implemented, you can count on Team Pure staying in the #1 spot indefinitely. They have the most benchers in the top 5 and these revisions take the best score from each hardware category/benchmark from the team. Effectually, it solidifies the heavily seeded and manuf supported overclockers into the top of the rankings.

The paradigm will shift forcefully and Team Rankings will mirror the Overclocker's League completely. If you're not in the "in" crowd, your out.

Previously, there was balance where even if a bunch of top notch overclockers like Team PURE rallied together to form a smoking hot team, another team could make a go of it with numerous mid to low range overclockers, or a team such as ours with an entire range of dedicated overclockers.

Totally agree and we could probably still rank pretty high, but I just don't like what it does to the whole team concept.

Originally Posted by Hondacity

ok..so we vote...on the pole....or poll..lol...

what do i choose? or what do we as oca choose?

Pick which ever one you are happy with man. I chose the last one.

Originally Posted by Splave

I dont think hwbot should ever change again, every revision makes it weaker and weaker. Whens the last bowling changed its rules

They claim its to cut teams costs and sharing but the teams this would benefit the most are getting the manufacturer support.

Originally Posted by karmakazi

I agree the current setup is as close to perfect as it could be... I even like it as much as rev2

Agreed. I wish hwbot was like rev2. The only thing I would change is make it competitive in 3d from 1-4 card categories. Rev3 really made single card benching interesting. Just have the same point algorythm for 3d from single card all the way through 4-way.

[DrNip]

I choose nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Chuchnit]

Found the source of the hate




Actually I'm kidding, but look at the pwnage in alternative 3 and current ranking. Just thought it was humerous that we stand out that much.

[Patch]

Funny. But that's just one 2D test with one CPU.

As a team, I think we'd do well with any of the revisions.

Problems in my mind are two-fold.

1) Tells the vast majority of overclockers that they aren't important for the team.
2) Makes the #1 team spot go to whatever INDIVIDUAL finds (or is given) the standout CPU of the time. Nothing team about that.

With a 7 GHz 980x we have a lot of guys who could dethrone the Taiwanese duo. One CPU gives you 1M, 32M, pifast, 3D06, 3D05, AM3 high bointage global world records - even with an average performing GPU. Add the global WR boints from doing those benches multicard style. Combine that chip with a good performing GPU (not necessarily best) and you have Vantage and 3D03 in the bag,too.

Everyone else then scrabbles for the remaining high bointage WR's in wprime and PCmark05 (currently quads) and the lone E8600 dominated 3D01.

That guy already will have the individual glory. Stupid to give his team all the glory without any additional effort by anybody else.

[Splave]

patch genius post mate

[Witchdoctor]

+1 Patch

Great points bro ...........

Hope they see the light

[Kal-EL]

Well, lets at least try and preserve the current version and voice our discontent with any changes.


If it pleases you, vote #2 and #6. Thats 2 and 6.


Good luck

[DrNip]

I vote against #2. True it has the original version with it but it has the proposed on the ass end of it. To me that is just a banana in the tail pipe. Even though I voted for #6 it is pointless. I say this because of what massman said to me:

Originally Posted by massman

I also said before that things NEED to change. I've said it from the beginning, a couple of times in the other rev4 thread and said it several times in this thread as well.

Things NEED to change. Period.

That right there says it will change and even if we vote against it, too bad.

[GeorgeStorm]

Why does he think things need to change?

[DrNip]

I dunno. I'm tired of trying to make sense and or logic out of this. I can't help but feel massman is playing games. I use to have respect for the dude but now I can't say I do.