[Kal-EL]

Originally Posted by eva2000

Yeah I've never been asked to send anything back that i review/test. Then again I always decline the offers if there's a time limit and I have to send it back - just not enough time with all the testing I do and incentive if the gear has to go back

Jody with TEC RAM cooling eek scary

Personally, I don't see any problems with ES being on hwbot as most retail cpus will eventually spank them - hell even my 2x i7 920 3836A756 C0 step cpus spanked the crap out of early i7 965 ES samples on just plain TRUE120 air!

Looking around I think thats true of the Intel ES chips. AMD "Special" chips seem a bit further along that what you'll get retail, if you know what I mean.

[Chuchnit]

Originally Posted by Kal-EL

Looking around I think thats true of the Intel ES chips. AMD "Special" chips seem a bit further along that what you'll get retail, if you know what I mean.

I think thats the main problem. AMD retails don't come anywhere close to their ES.

[Neuromancer]

Originally Posted by Chuchnit

I think thats the main problem. AMD retails don't come anywhere close to their ES.

I thought the TWKR chip was already outclocked by a retail quad hitting 7GHz?