[Kal-EL]

Originally Posted by karmakazi

Im not trying to derail your thread but how much wattage does the monstacade draw at load?

I bet electrical costs top $100/month to run it. I prefer to tweak on air cooling b4 I go ln2.

I think for the temp control ln2 is a better bet anyday over a cascade, just my opinion tho.

Here my breakdown:
$25 per dewar fill (lasts me ~3 weeks)
$200 - 50l taylor wharton
$300 - F1EE which can be updated to fit any socket for just a couple dollars for a new holddown/backplate

So I assume that for $1600 the mostercade/something similar could be had? I would need to fill my dewar ~50 times to equal the original cost. not including electrical usage each month to run that monster. 50 dewar fills = 150 weeks or almost 3 years of running ln2. in 3 years i bet the monstacade needs a regas and retune. that isnt free either...

Just my $.02

It aint cheap, but I'll say "Its EASY!" turn on switch, bench all u want, tune in clocks, turn off. Now run off to get some ln2 to see what else you can muster from it. In the end, it all costs more than an un-addicted person could stomach.

[karmakazi]

I think its cool to see others approaches. I wasnt criticizing or anything NoL.

For me LN2 is just cheaper, easier, and better. If I could make a good cascade or have one built at a reasonable price I would. But neither of those things is gonna happen

[NoL]

Hey its the classic OC'ing arguement. Cascade or Disposable (Dryice/Ln2), cascade is just a long term investment.

[NoL]

Extra insulation bolstering the HX box, pushed finishing nails through, holds the walls in, and lined all the holes with nice black duct tape. That'll seal it up before I spray it with foam later on.
Now to do some welding work.

[karmakazi]

So is that pink box insulating the pipe so you dont have to insulate it w/ pipe wrap?

[NoL]

Sort of.
They're really won't be much piper wrap here.
By using this box though, not only are my heat exchangers nicely insulated, but they'res no real runs of cold pipe other then the direct suctions up from the compressors.
Also, the first heat exchanger is helping insulate the second, and never leaving the box means minimal heat losses.

[dinos22]

i'd kill to have a cascade hehe

[NoL]

Anyone? That seems a fair trade.

[Buckeye]

Trade Dino for a Cascade ?

[NoL]

Naw, was thinking I've got a few enemies though.