[AmericanNightmare]

All doomsaying aside AMD chips are flying off the shelves especially their APU's. Show be a SB or SB-E that will do 8GHz as well. I don't think AMD has intended to release a product for a long time that would surpass Intel and have said so before this came out. Bulldozer was intended to surpass Deneb which it did. They have been realistic about their inability to go toe to toe with Intel for a long time now so I see this as nothing new.

For them doing so poorly I sure do see a lot of "just bought an 8120/8150" threads floating around the internet.

[Witchdoctor]

Yea I see a lot of that as well, but I think for the porposes of what we typically are focused on around here AKA world records they just are not a viable solution although great hardware grinders fo sho

[BenchZowner]

How many FX-8120s & FX-8150s you guys think they have actually sold ? ( sold to clients, not to distributors, not that these numbers will be unbalanced in this case, with AMD's very limited 8120 & 8150 supply )

[Witchdoctor]

I do not know but I have to think not as many as they would have liked

I see these chips making a splash in the oem market for lower cost grinding solutions

They run Facebook rather well...................

[MaadDaawg]

Originally Posted by Witchdoctor

I do not know but I have to think not as many as they would have liked

I see these chips making a splash in the ocean for lower cost grinding solutions

They run Facebook rather well...................

: made a slight adjustment WD (above) :

[Witchdoctor]

[BenchZowner]

There's no way to make a module ( the term is compute unit, there's no module in any microprocessor engineering book ) appear/act as a single core.

Also expecting to see an eight-core FX working operate fully stable for 24/7 usage over 5GHz on air cooling is more than a daydream, and even if they ( let me enhance the dream ) could make BD like 10% faster with a revision [ simply impossible, just saying ] and even make them have a decent average air cooled overclock at approx 5.5GHz, it'd still not be enough to match the 2600K.

[MaadDaawg]

The K6 was a hot processor

[ShrimpBrime]

Originally Posted by BenchZowner

There's no way to make a module ( the term is compute unit, there's no module in any microprocessor engineering book ) appear/act as a single core.

Also expecting to see an eight-core FX working operate fully stable for 24/7 usage over 5GHz on air cooling is more than a daydream, and even if they ( let me enhance the dream ) could make BD like 10% faster with a revision [ simply impossible, just saying ] and even make them have a decent average air cooled overclock at approx 5.5GHz, it'd still not be enough to match the 2600K.

10% is not that much. The last x86 (phenom II) architecture gained 10%. Why not this one?? C2 and C3. Big difference. Night and day actually.

__Cpu__Stp___stock___MaxTurbo
FX-8150 B2 3.6 GHz 4.2 GHz
FX-8170 C0 3.9 GHz 4.5 GHz

The above is only 60mhz shy of 10%.

I don't do the Intel vs AMD fyi. Already know i7 is faster.

[BenchZowner]

Phenom II is not just a process revision of Phenom I.

Clock per clock ( better performance at the same frequency ) is nowhere to be found in almost every single core revision ever.
Core i7 920 C0 vs D0... clock both at the same frequency, and show me a difference in performance
Core 2 Quad Q6600 B3 vs G0... clock both at the same frequency and show me a difference
...etc