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I think Chuchnit is correct in his logic here. When dealing with a corporation, little matters more than the bottom line, $$$$$$.

Sure corporations will tell you everything that their marketing research consultant tells them will give a "Good" Company Image. Product/Company "Image" effects sales. Corporate espionage occurs every second and agents get paid for obtaining special information. People have been busted for it countless times.

In this instance, the press generated by monster performing chips drives interest and sales. Its far too valuable for these companies to seed the market with buzz making ES or CHerry samples.

Reviewers are frequently slapped with NDA agreements before givin new "Cherry" hardware to publicise and review. These agreements dictate what information can be said about the product and what areas can be covered. I know this for a fact. As a small example, XXXXXXX, THE premiere boutique system builder on the web, sends out ES sample ridden hardware to reviewers + strict NDA agreement for ALL reviews. I found this out after spending the time befriending a certain employee. At the time, I was curious as to why the load temperature mistakely shown in one fo the reviewers screenshot exceeded Intel's spec's for the same retail processor.

It's just not gonna be resolved by the big company's or little ones at that.

I'll still keep beating my drum on the hardware tho, why? , because I love competing.
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I think Chuchnit is correct in his logic here. When dealing with a corporation, little matters more than the bottom line, $$$$$$.

Sure corporations will tell you everything that their marketing research consultant tells them will give a "Good" Company Image. Product/Company "Image" effects sales. Corporate espionage occurs every second and agents get paid for obtaining special information. People have been busted for it countless times.

In this instance, the press generated by monster performing chips drives interest and sales. Its far too valuable for these companies to seed the market with buzz making ES or CHerry samples.

Reviewers are frequently slapped with NDA agreements before givin new "Cherry" hardware to publicise and review. These agreements dictate what information can be said about the product and what areas can be covered. I know this for a fact. As a small example, XXXXXXX, THE premiere boutique system builder on the web, sends out ES sample ridden hardware to reviewers + strict NDA agreement for ALL reviews. I found this out after spending the time befriending a certain employee. At the time, I was curious as to why the load temperature mistakely shown in one fo the reviewers screenshot exceeded Intel's spec's for the same retail processor.

It's just not gonna be resolved by the big company's or little ones at that.

I'll still keep beating my drum on the hardware tho, why? , because I love competing.
Yep, there is no stopping it. They will just find a way to work around the system.


Something else I wanna say, but didn't want it to get buried in my gigantic post above:

People whine about ES this, sponsered that. "We need a level playing field" crap. Well all that hardware does you about ZERO good without tweaking knowledge, good overclocking skills, and pure determination. All you NBOC guys, look at yourselfs. You guys pull off some awesome boints. I mean that. Almost every member is in 300+ boint range. Just amazing. Is it because you guys have free shit? Nope, its because you guys gots da tweaking skills. Mad props to you guys.

Anyways, the moral of the story here is this. Hiding, withholding and keeping tweaks to yourself makes benching just as unfair as hardware sponserships if you wanna think about it that way. I for one don't give a crap. I see both sides. I try to share anything I find myself, but respect others wishes when they give me a tweak they don't want public.

Think about this for a sec. K|ngp|n comes to your house. He brings all his gear and sets you up the same rig that he has the 01 record with. All you gotta do is install your OS. He'll set the overclocks up just right for ya. Do you think you could match his score? I for one don't think I could....
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Thank you Chuch and yes, our little crew does get after it from time to time. I will be going on another tear this weekend with my returned Classy...she has been gone too long for rma and I sorely missed her. I say let's break something! cool2
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Thank you Chuch and yes, our little crew does get after it from time to time. I will be going on another tear this weekend with my returned Classy...she has been gone too long for rma and I sorely missed her. I say let's break something! cool2
hahaha, now don't go have all the fun
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